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  •  no. Scarborough is fun. What fun is an echo (6+ / 0-)

    chamber?  My family likes Joe's show.

    Maddow's smart--and I like Matthews--but the whole Maddow/Matthews/Lawrence/Ed lineup is completely out of control.  

    Combine that with Alex Wagner in the morning (who I can't stand)....

    I want news, with some columnists.  I don't want Fox Left.

    •  Speak for yourself (22+ / 0-)

      I am very happy with the Matthews/Sharpton/Ed/Maddow/Lawrence/ lineup.    

      I vote Democratic because I am a woman with self-respect , who rejects bigotry of all kinds, subscribes to science, believes in universal health care, embraces unions, and endorses smart internationalist foreign policy. Twitter: @HawaiiDelilah

      by Delilah on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 07:43:03 PM PST

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      •  i am speaking for myself. who did you believe I (5+ / 0-)
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        was speaking for?

        note terms like:

        'I'
        "MY' family.
        "I want'
        'I don't want'

        First person singular.  Possessive, in one case.

      •  me, too (3+ / 0-)

        but I'd like it even better if they didn't all rotate the same pundits ALL THE TIME (including Klein, Melber, Ball, Wolfe, Finney, etc) They're fine commentators, but I want some new blood . That's what makes Up! and MHP so good-- they bring in actual experts among the pundits.

      •  While I like the four at night, they are usually (3+ / 0-)
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        echoes of each other. Same stories covered from the same point of view.

        I usually watch Mathews, some of Sharpton and Lawrence (also Joe in the morning because of guests and also get an look at the other side in a fairly nonaggressive atmosphere).

        I love Maddows interviews (when she does them), but when she explains something, she speaks to us like were freshman in high school. Repeats her points  several times. I usually get it the first time round and I'm not a poll-sci graduate.

        It’s the Supreme Court, stupid! Followed by: It's always the Supreme Court! Progressives will win only when we convince a majority that they, too, are Progressive.

        by auapplemac on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 01:54:28 AM PST

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        •  Ditto on Maddow (Sorry Rachel) (1+ / 0-)
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          She's crazy smart, well researched, teaches me things I didn't know before and is charmingly goofy sometimes--- but MY GAWD I really don't need a lead-in to the main message that takes as long as the message itself.

          Mr. Tigerdog, who respects her greatly, is so annoyed by it that he refuses to watch her anymore. Just the sound of her voice intruding into his sleep when I'm watching her with the sound down low will wake him up and make him grumpy. I kid you not.

          "The thing you should know, the very most important whatever, the great big top line thing of something, the very very very most compelling whatever that makes this so very very very VERY astounding is..."

          Yeah, I got it with the first THIS IS IMPORTANT reference. Please move along, Rachel, please just get to the point.

          And that's from someone who loves her... :)

          You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help. --Calvin & Hobbes

          by tigerdog on Mon Nov 12, 2012 at 08:43:22 AM PST

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    •  I'm not looking for an echo chamber (10+ / 0-)

      But Morning Joe has become unwatchable.  He stacks his guest list with other republicans and even the other regulars all seem to be republicans, soft democrats, and those not willing to speak their minds if it goes against Joe. Yes men...the bunch of them.   When they do have a strong Democrat on, they spend their time making fun of them or talking over them.  On election day Howard Dean tried to bring up the problems in Pennsylvania with bogus poll watchers demanding ID outside the polls and he was laughed at and dismissed without even finishing his sentence. When they had the author who wrote the book on the Presidents stimulus bill on they spent the entire time making juvenile jokes about his book being a "big, wet kiss" for the President, not once refuting a single point he made, but it was so obvious that no one on the show was buying a thing he said that it made everything he said inconsequential. Just another guy shilling a book. As soon as he left the show they were repeating the same republican talking points that he just debunked.

      I love a good honest debate.  Up has become one of my very favorite MSNBC shows.  But let's not pretend we get that with Morning Joe because we don't!

      •  Up is brilliant (13+ / 0-)

        They at least make an obvious effort to have both sides of the discussion represented (when there are two sides worth discussing), and while it still feels like it leans left, the right is given a chance to make thier arguments.

        usually followed by Chris Hayes logically dismantling those arguments into itty bits.

        "Ruin comes when the trader, whose heart is lifted up by wealth, becomes ruler" - Plato, Republic

        by sixeight120bpm on Sun Nov 11, 2012 at 08:28:01 PM PST

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        •  Never thought I would be getting up at 6am (7+ / 0-)

          on weekends to watch TV, but here I am.  I think it is the smartest talk show on TV with excellent guests.

          I like and watch the Ed Show.  I wonder if his wife's illness is a consideration if he is leaving his show.  He brings an emotional challenge to working people that I don't think is done that well elsewhere.   Perhaps he is tired of talking about politics and wants to get in and stir it up.  

        •  I would have agreed with you..... (1+ / 0-)
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          But now? I'm not so sure. I loved the show when it first started but, like Rachel,I think he has started to dial it back in the "Tell it like it is" department. Case in point, on Saturday's show, within the first five minutes he declared that Obama was a liberal President and that the Democrats would be soley responsible if and when the ACA were to fail.Now I know that the President is a good and decent man, but I wouldn't call him a liberal any more than Clinton was a liberal.Center right at best but certainly not liberal. And as far as the ACA goes, it was patterned after Republican legislation and even though the Republicans pissed and moaned and didn't publicly endorse it, they managed to include at least two hundred amendments to it as it was being written.Hayes had to know that both statements weren't accurate but he made them anyway.And as far as hearing from the other side? There is plenty of that on all of the other shows and on UP I find it distracting and a detriment to a factually based conversation. And to have to listen to the same old talking points from the other side? No thanks. I find myself watching less and less of the show as it morphs into something less than its early promise.

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