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  •  Two small points: (1+ / 0-)
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    A Siegel

    1. This seems nit picking:

    First, the Obama Administration deserves serious credit for the fuel efficiency standard work.  This was a major achievement that will have significant impact.

    Second, this is simply false:  "That will take a lot of carbon out of the atmosphere."  There is an important differentiation between the work "take" and "keep".

    The point is accurate as a matter of technical grammar.  But the ungrammatical convoluted misuse of "take" for "keep" does not make the statement false. Surprisingly, the standards of inductive logic give precedence to the sense of such statements over literal readings.

    Of course, cars do not "take" carbon out of the air physically. This change to regulatory law "takes" its carbon away from an unregulated alternative model, statistically.

    2. Writing after being flooded by Sandy and still throwing out stuff from our garage, this response from President Obama is good enough for me.

    Seriously. This is a press conference, not a written scientific article in "Nature."

    Black Eisenhower is doing an amazing job. And like White Ike, he's very good a press conferences. Doing a couple hundred of them is a solid way to communicate with America. Worked beautifully in the 1950s.

    •  Couple items ... (1+ / 0-)
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      bontemps2012

      1.  This is not the first time President Obama has used these words ("take"). I did intro those paragraphs with "Need to take a moment for an editorial comment." And, as per what you clipped, I started with praising the achievement.  The incorrect 'take' vs 'keep' does matter in terms of habitual language and the message(s) it sends.  

      2.  What I did not do, which makes sense to have done, is compared the specificity and power of the President's responses on other issues to the climate change discussion. Quoted, in comment just above yours, from WashPost today:

      Part of the reason America still lacks a comprehensive, long-term global warming strategy is that Obama put climate policy lower on his first-term priority list than health care and financial reform. Will the issue get the attention it requires in his second term? In the end, the president on Wednesday was not very encouraging. He had many more details and a far more urgent tone answering questions on budget and immigration reforms. About long-term climate policy, the best he could manage was this: “You can expect that you’ll hear more from me in the coming months and years about how we can shape an agenda that garners bipartisan support.” That hardly signals an ambition in proportion to the size of the problem.
      3.  Thoughts with you on 'cleaning out' ...

      Blogging regularly at Get Energy Smart NOW! for a sustainable energy future.

      by A Siegel on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 05:46:39 AM PST

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