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  •  The problem with secession in the U.S... (3+ / 0-)
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    jessical, irishwitch, Kitsap River

    ...is that each side thinks it's the real 'Murrica.  We'd be fighting over who owns the family name like some divorcing couples fight over the dog.

    "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win". Mohandas K. Gandhi

    by DaveinBremerton on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 09:26:57 PM PST

    •  You're in... (2+ / 0-)
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      DaveinBremerton, Kitsap River

      ...arguably one of the most federalized cities in the country, shy JBLM, certainly in the state.  I realized when I saw your tip, above, that your perspective might be both different and more sophisticated.  We'd be talking about ending small cities which install small nuclear reactors in ships like other places install light poles :}  Why it seems so ridiculous even to talk about this now, in many ways.

      ...j'ai découvert que tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos dans une chambre.

      by jessical on Wed Nov 14, 2012 at 10:11:35 PM PST

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      •  Probably one of the most federalized counties (1+ / 0-)
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        as well. Kitsap County has a fairly small amount of land compared to some, and about 250,000 people, yet a lot of the county still retains that rural character and culture, from the second-generation (or is it third now) Japanese iris farmers to the guy down the road with a few head of Polled Herefords and a few head of horses, to the woman that sells fresh eggs from her house on Mile Hill. But there's all that federal money and all those federal jobs, be they enlisted or civilian.

        One of the best job training programs here is through the community college, where trade unions apprentices go to school to learn their trades for a couple of years and graduate into guaranteed shipyard jobs. There's got to be huge federal linkage there, and that's just one area. I think 40% of our local employment is civilian military workers on the shipyard and in Bangor.

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        Why are war casualty counts "American troops" and "others" but never "human beings"?

        by Kitsap River on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 02:29:23 AM PST

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      •  I'm probably one of the most federalized citizens (0+ / 0-)

        Retired military, did a short stint as a civil servant before leaving government for the private sector.  Education paid for by Air Force tuition assistance and the G.I. Bill (thank you, 'Murricans).

        My perspective on government is twofold:

        (1) "We, the People" are the Guhv'mint.  I don't go hating on myself.
        (2) A strong federal government is the shiznit.  It's the glue binding together the republic

        I identify much more as an American than as a Washingtonian, and I've had my share of banana slug guts squished up between my toes.  I'm very much of this state, but I'm first and foremost an American.

        "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win". Mohandas K. Gandhi

        by DaveinBremerton on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 10:16:15 PM PST

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