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  •  Wrong, they're almost-winning positions.... (13+ / 0-)

    ....and I think that's how they see it and what they'll continue to believe in.

    They just need to sign up more voters, drive us over the fiscal cliff and then bitch for the next 2 years about how Obama couldn't bring us all together and they'll blame him for cratering the economy and will likely do well in 2014.

    They NEED the narrative to be that Obama failed and I'm certain that they will allow the economy to go down in order to make sure that the narrative remains intact.

    They don't care about consequences the way liberals do, so all the complaining on here by us is pointless unless we twitterbomb ALL of the Republicans in the House immediately and jam their phone lines and exert actual pressure on them.

    •  As I said they will double down (10+ / 0-)

      It is a losing position [for everyone] long term

      "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing." Arundhati Roy

      by LaFeminista on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 04:13:24 AM PST

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      •  Their policy profile dates back to Reagan (11+ / 0-)

        Their use of racism dates back to Nixon.  They're not going to change any time soon.

        Ryan openly dogwhistled that they lost b/c too many "urban" people voted.   Romney told supporters they lost b/c of gifts Obama gave to minorities and young people.    The party's line in the sand on top marginal rates was not erased by the electoral tide.

        There are 3 moderate Republicans left in the Senate, and 2 of them (Snowe and Lieberman) are leaving in a matter of days.  They blew winnable Senate races in CO, DE, and NV last cycle and in MO and IN this time by nominating wingnuts, but they don't care.  

        Expecting the GOP to make major changes is like expecting Rush to lose a lot of weight.

        Some men see things as they are and ask why. I dream of things that never were and ask why not?

        by RFK Lives on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 05:52:00 AM PST

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        •  I feel ya but the difference is (4+ / 0-)
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          their bubble is bursting. Rove unhinged on election night. Bold predictions being completely wrong. Egg on face right wing clowns scrambling to offer plausible mea culpas. Media coverage of angry donors wondering why their hundreds of millions were wasted and why they were assured all the way to the Ohio calling that they would win. Conservative heavyweights now talking 'amnesty'. Boehner saying the word 'revenues'.

          I agree with you 100% but I'm not expecting the GOP to make changes. I believe we are seeing that they are being forced to make changes. They won't have a black candidate to oppose with all the Kenya, Antichrist, socialist propaganda. The demographics is changing and they aren't getting the automatic Republicans in the next cycles of new voters.

          I believe if we communicate effectively, they will have to continue to change because they will continue to lose.

          •  Let's quote the GOP nominee (3+ / 0-)
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            “With regards to the young people, for instance, a forgiveness of college loan interest, was a big gift,” he said. “Free contraceptives were very big with young college-aged women. And then, finally, Obamacare also made a difference for them, because as you know, anybody now 26 years of age and younger was now going to be part of their parents’ plan, and that was a big gift to young people. They turned out in large numbers, a larger share in this election even than in 2008.”

            The president’s health care plan, he added, was also a useful tool in mobilizing African-American and Hispanic voters. Though Mr. Romney won the white vote with 59 percent, according to exit polls, minorities coalesced around the president in overwhelming numbers — 93 percent of blacks and 71 percent of Hispanics voted to re-elect Mr. Obama.

            “You can imagine for somebody making $25,000 or $30,000 or $35,000 a year, being told you’re now going to get free health care, particularly if you don’t have it, getting free health care worth, what, $10,000 per family, in perpetuity, I mean, this is huge,” he said. “Likewise with Hispanic voters, free health care was a big plus. But in addition with regards to Hispanic voters, the amnesty for children of illegals, the so-called Dream Act kids, was a huge plus for that voting group."

            Some men see things as they are and ask why. I dream of things that never were and ask why not?

            by RFK Lives on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 07:37:27 AM PST

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          •  I'm not expecting the party to survive (0+ / 0-)

            In fact, I hope for it, argue in favor of it, vote for it, and eagerly look forward to the passing of the LAST RED ELEPHANT.

            It cannot come too soon.

            "Reagan proved deficits don't matter" - Dick Cheney

            by chmood on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 02:17:10 PM PST

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      •  I disagree (1+ / 0-)
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        If they double down and continue to deny reality, it is quite possible that the American public will end up the winner in the long term, as the Republican party marginalizes itself out of existence.

    •  Almost winning with toay's demographics (5+ / 0-)

      a big loser long term.

      So I would say you are "wrong".

      "Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I can hear her breathing." Arundhati Roy

      by LaFeminista on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 04:28:56 AM PST

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    •  I'm not so sure (6+ / 0-)

      Obama got just 39% of the white vote what will happen come 2016? I do think some of that is a result  of subconscious to conscious racism but that vote is only going to go down and frankly 'Obamacare' is going to be incredibly popular.

      Not to mention that the polling shows the public is far and away more likely to blame the GOP then the president.

      Thus the GOP plays that game and they will lose, gerrymandering only will protect them so far.

    •  Yes but (1+ / 0-)
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      if we go over the fiscal cliff, then the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy expire. Then all the President and the Democratic leadership has to do is propose tax cuts for the 98% and force the Republicans to say they won't cut taxes for 98% without tax cuts for the millionaires and billionaires.

      The President is already laying out that groundwork and he is going to take it directly to the American people. They will lose on this. Boehner is already capitulating. McConnell can continue to be bellicose to not be primaried but he doesn't have the votes to oppose.

      We are going to get more voters than they will in the next two years because we have momentum and the party has learned from the 2010 shellacking. Boots will remain on the ground and working for 2014 and the voter suppression tactics are becoming more obvious and decried by more of the American people on both sides.

      Finally, don't confuse accurately describing the landscape as the diarist has done with complaining. These diaries inspire people to knock on doors, contribute, phone bank, drive people to the polls, volunteer as poll judges and much more. We shape the narrative here. We inform Congressmen (who post here), political TV personalities, strategists and others.

      Actual pressure is arming more and more of the electorate so that they call their representatives on a particular bill, that they go see their representative when they come back to the district, so that they tie up the phone lines with legitimate complaints, so that they twitterbomb those representatives and message their FB pages and overwhelm them with the facts from their own constituencies.

      The grass roots is going to beat the machine. The grass roots is responsible for so much in this nation as you well know. They are Citizens United astroturfed Obamacare wrapped buses. We are hundreds of thousands of union members and average citizens knocking on doors. And we will kick their ass again!!

    •  I doubt it's a winning approach (1+ / 0-)
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      The obstructionist mantra was hammered hard and if they do it, then people will be paying attention. It might bolster their batshit insane base, but that's never been their weak spot on the demographic map.

      Bashing obstructionist Congress critters over the head during the 2014 elections won't win them all, but it doesn't have to -- it just needs to tip the scales in about 15 races or so.

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