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  •  How about *both*? (14+ / 0-)

    It doesn't happen without Senate Democrats - and they need to lose their damned seats if they let it happen.

    It honestly won't happen without some House Democrats for cover, so that they can claim it was bipartisan.

    We're not limited to one front.

    "the Agency continues to verify the non-diversion of declared material at these facilities and LOFs."

    by JesseCW on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 01:16:16 PM PST

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    •  It's good to "see" you. (7+ / 0-)
      On Capitol Hill, it isn’t clear how strenuously Democrats will resist cutting entitlements. Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D., Md.) said he and others were open to changes as long as they were done in a measured way and were part of deal that included tax increases. Mr. Van Hollen also said changing Social Security and increasing the Medicare eligibility age above 65 should be part of negotiations.

      “I’m willing to consider all of these ideas as part of an overall plan,” Mr. Van Hollen said Tuesday at the Journal’s CEO Council.

      http://boldprogressives.org/...
      •  Mr. Van Hollen, are you planning to get Democrats (5+ / 0-)

        elected in 2014?

        "Lets show the rascals what Citizens United really means."

        by smiley7 on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 03:16:04 PM PST

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        •  The defintion (6+ / 0-)

          of what a Democrat is has changed so maybe he will if they fit the new mold.

          There are no sacred cows.

          by LaEscapee on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 03:22:36 PM PST

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        •  Great point. (5+ / 0-)

          If this keeps up, it will look like the movie Groundhog Day with Bill Murray regarding the 2010 and 2014 elections.

          Reminds me of:

          how much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood
          Translated to "How many votes would a Democrat get if a Democrat voted in Congress like a Democrat should vote if they followed the Party platform?"
        •  The Republican Bogeyman argument will still apply (0+ / 0-)

          then.

          The time to pressure these people is during the primary, mainly. But democrats have to be willing to take a loss in the general election to send a message.

          That's how the conservative contingent has been successful in shifting both parties to the right: Republicans go because otherwise the teanutters will primary their asses out and don't care if they lose the general election when their uber-conservative jerk is the candidate, and Democrats go because "who you gonna vote for--a teanutter?" and are basically able to be just barely less conservative than republicans without suffering any consequences.

      •  Forward everyone, we won... (6+ / 0-)
        NPR reported yesterday that: The Center for American Progress is pushing a new $500 billion cut to Medicare and advocating other unwarranted changes.

        Are the folks at the Center running for congress in 2014?

        We need no help from these dinos in deficit negotiations.

        We ain't buying your smooth propaganda rich folk, you owe us $16 Trillion.

        We must not relent, we beat Karl and his millions and we can beat these dudes, too.

        "Lets show the rascals what Citizens United really means."

        by smiley7 on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 03:23:52 PM PST

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      •  The second the ACA passed, the writing was on (7+ / 0-)

        the wall for Medicare.

        If it's good enough for your kids, and it's good enough for you, why isn't it good enough for Grandma?

        How can this model of corporate subsidy be both the Most Progressive Thing Ever and be a horrible idea that shouldn't be allowed to replace Medicare?

        Nah, they'll just dump the over 70 or over 75's on us.  If they can, they'll continue to dump the very poor on us, since they're sicker and less profitable.  

        The only way to succeed on Wall Street is to grow forever, and the only way they can grow is by having government compel more suckers to buy their product.

        I can't get over, to this day, that people either were or pretended to be stupid enough to think this was a "step toward" single payer rather than the death of the idea for another generation.

        "the Agency continues to verify the non-diversion of declared material at these facilities and LOFs."

        by JesseCW on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 03:26:21 PM PST

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