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  •  Vote by mail (1+ / 0-)
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    It takes time to count...

    •  That's not really a good answer, though (0+ / 0-)

      If it absolutely takes that long to count votes by mail, we can't have voting by mail in my opinion.  Voter convenience has some value but there are competing values and knowing results in less that geological time is high on the list.

      You know, I sometimes think if I could see, I'd be kicking a lot of ass. -Stevie Wonder at the Glastonbury Festival, 2010

      by Rich in PA on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 01:28:51 PM PST

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      •  There's more value (0+ / 0-)

        in having immediate results than in making it easier for more people to vote?

        Ummm... yeah, no.

        That said, there's no reason states like Arizona, California, Oregon and Washington should still be counting. Vote by mail, in fact, should make it QUICKER -- just start feeding the ballots as they come in and not wait until election day.

      •  Portland tends to vote at the last minute... (0+ / 0-)

        Like, a 2 block line at the elections office on election day-most of those people have problems with registration, screwed up or lost their ballot or spilled beer on it (damn straight, we do our sacred duty at at the brewpub :). This year they were able to check the ballots for "voter intent" (ie, filled out so the scanner can read them,ect), starting a week before election day (but not scan or tally them till election day), so that helps.

        But here's the thing-every signature has to be checked against the registration, the "secrecy envelope" opened and the ballot checked by a team of 2 people: usually a Republican and a Democrat and supervised by an elections worker (who actually supervises a bunch of "teams"). There are also "poll watchers"-which I have done, usually a Rep and Dem, maybe a Constitution party too-to monitor the operation. That takes time.

        Most counties (like mine with 30,000 voters) are done by that night/the next morning, but Multnomah county gets overwhelmed.

        The correct answer to this, I guess, is to hire more ballot counters, but that would involve more training and supervision etc. I am not an election expert, so maybe there's more to it than that.

        I really don't appreciate your incivility and rudeness. Armando 7/23/11

        by liberte on Thu Nov 15, 2012 at 03:34:53 PM PST

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