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  •  That's not in doubt (1+ / 0-)
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    unless you mean permanently extending them.

    That's problematic because it increases the deficit and would require spending reductions to match them, even under reconciliation.

    I understand the impulse to decouple them, but I think that increased stimulus spending now is more important than achieving the decoupling by December.

    Also, I'm against a lame duck Congress making long term decisions.

    •  Armando: (1+ / 0-)
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      Also, I'm against a lame duck Congress making long term decisions.
      Granted, but that decision has already been foisted upon us. If the lame duck congress refuses to make a decision, that IS a decision.

      You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. --Bob Dylan-- -7.25, -6.21

      by Tim DeLaney on Sun Nov 18, 2012 at 05:15:32 PM PST

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    •  Armando, do you think that (2+ / 0-)

      six months or a year from now the GOP will readily accept the expiration of the Bush tax cuts? Or do you think they will find another way to hold the country hostage to their failed idea?

      I don't think they will give up. Paraphrasing Frank Pantangele in Godfather II, we have to deal with them now, while we have the muscle.

      Politics is not only the art of the possible, but also the art of what is possible NOW.

      You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. --Bob Dylan-- -7.25, -6.21

      by Tim DeLaney on Sun Nov 18, 2012 at 05:38:08 PM PST

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      •  It won't matter if they do (0+ / 0-)

        They will expire just as they do now at the end of the year.

        In the meantime we will have Sandy relief and other stimulus in hand.

        •  But "In the meantime ..." (3+ / 0-)

          they will find other reasons to hold the country hostage to these tax cuts. Every postponement of the expiration of the Bush tax cuts is an immense victory for the GOP. Many billions of dollars for the extremely wealthy are at stake.

          Do you think the country would stand for the GOP withholding Sandy relief? Unthinkable! We are not in the position of having to beg the GOP to for Sandy relief. We won the election, after all!

          I am not nearly as confident as you are that these infamous tax cuts will someday, bye and bye, be allowed to expire. This beast will die only when its heart stops beating forever. We should draw that line at December 31. JMHO

          You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. --Bob Dylan-- -7.25, -6.21

          by Tim DeLaney on Sun Nov 18, 2012 at 06:12:36 PM PST

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    •  Extend Only the $250 and Under Cuts (5+ / 0-)

      I have no problem with a temporary extension for the $250 and under cuts, as long as we don't extend the over $250 cuts.  I'm open to any lame duck deal that just extends the $250 and under cuts, but we should not agree to any deal that extends both leaving them coupled and our side exposed to another round of hostage taking.

      Free the Middle Class Tax Hostages NOW!

      "Some men see things as they are and ask, 'Why?' I dream of things that never were and ask, 'Why not?"

      by Doctor Who on Sun Nov 18, 2012 at 05:42:26 PM PST

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