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  •  did you stop beating your partner yet? nt (0+ / 0-)
    •  What on earth do you mean by this comment? (2+ / 0-)
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      LilithGardener, poco

      I'm going to give you a chance to respond before donuting it. It seems completely disconnected from the previous comment.

      •  Commentor made a generalized accusation (1+ / 0-)
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        mahakali overdrive

        against the whole site, that everyone is ignoring the horrendous gamification Isreal's attack in Gaza, rather than do a simple search to find diaries on the topic.

        Hm, eerie silence on this site regarding Gaza. n/t
        I can see how the comment could be construed as an attack rather than a rebuttal.

        Feel free to donut if you see fit. I would delete it if I could, as I usually ignore such nonsense.

        •  No, I want to hear more from you (1+ / 0-)
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          LilithGardener

          about your choice of words. Why did you make that analogy about wife-beating? Or partner-beating? That's what I don't understand.

          Your explanation is appreciated. I don't donut people out of vengeance, and if someone is talking, I welcome their explanation if the comment is cuspy, as I see yours being (it struck me as a non-sequitor).

          •  This sums up where I was coming from (0+ / 0-)

            In Paul Elbourne’s Meaning: A Slim Guide to Semantics, he notes:

            This property of presuppositions, that both the original sentence and its negation entail the presupposed proposition, makes presuppositions in a sense hard to escape from. This fact lies behind the old chestnut about the lawyer who asks a defendant, ‘Have you stopped beating your wife?’ … This kind of example has a long history. The Megarian school of Greek philosophy in the third century BC favoured the version ‘Have you stopped beating your father?’ The medieval philosophers toned the example down somewhat to ‘Have you stopped beating your donkey?’ But then in modern times wives supplanted donkeys. (Nowadays, in a nod to gender equality, one occasionally sees the example cited as ‘Have you stopped beating your spouse?’) As the American linguist Laurence Horn says, the history of this example ‘represents a discouraging commentary on twenty-three centuries of progress in social sensitivity.’
            I originally wrote wife, but changed it to partner because I didn't know anything about the commentor's gender or relationship.

            Instead of being too subtle about objecting to the age old trick of making blanket accusation based on a false premise, I could have kept it simple and replied, "Did you look?"

          •  The loaded question that impunes an opponent's (1+ / 0-)
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            mahakali overdrive

            character has been much discussed this election cycle.

            My using the question had nothing to do with Isreal/Gaza.

            If that's your concern, I sincerely apologize.

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