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  •  What data do you require? (2+ / 0-)
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    AWC will provide 7 gigs initially, up to 35 gigs upgraded, following the coast its near every major coastal east coast city from NYC to Virginia Beach.

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    FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

    by Roger Fox on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 08:14:09 PM PST

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    •  i was thinking especially about this line: (0+ / 0-)

      "(And, I believe, jeopardizing the health of those who are forced to live near them.)"

      but there was plenty of FUD elsewhere in the post.

      •  Is there any difinitive science (0+ / 0-)

        on illnesses from living next to transmission lines pro or con?

        When in fact the qualifier is quite clear, "I believe". The intent is clear.

        The wind industry is trying to become "Big Wind," to take over from "Big Coal."
        With a LCO cost to generate of 3.3 to 6.5 cents per kw hr, wind is attracting a lot of capital. In fact I recently wrote about the size of offshore wind projects, and the growth in the investments.
        There are a number of companies planning to build wind farms in the Midwest, where there are pretty good wind resources (though nowhere near as good as off the coasts) - but then they need to build thousands of miles of high-voltage transmission lines to ship the electricity to the eastern and western population centers.
        The trend to HVDC transmission is clear over the last 20 years, the ability to transmit electricity 2000 miles is something that sets HVAC apart from HVDC. HVDC gives us the ability top move renewable sources to where they are needed.
        The transmission lines will cost hundreds of billions of dollars, all told (plus the fat profits the federal government guarantees them, to mitigate "risk"), and disrupt thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of citizens - taking their properties and ruining viewsheds. (And, I believe, jeopardizing the health of those who are forced to live near them.)
        Well HVDC takes up half the space as HVAC, so the comment may have overstated the impact.
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        The 380 mile long Atlantic Wind Connection is estimated to cost 5.5 billion dollars. The TVA is getting interested in new HVDC projects.

        The offshore wind farms, by contrast, may be more expensive than building them on land, but they will already be near the population centers and can tie in to the existing grid far more easily (and cheaply).
        Again the example set by the Atlantic Wind Connection can put wind power into cities such as NYC, Newark, Baltimore, Washington DC, Philadelphia, Trenton Annapolis, Dover, Norfolk, Richmond. All these cities are within about 50 miles of the coast.

        AWC is planned with a 7 gigwatt capacity, Upgraded with a ultra high voltage DC cable will add another 28 gigawatts of capacity. A 3rd upgrade would bring it up to 63 gigawatts. Thats about 15% of the national demand.

        FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

        by Roger Fox on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 07:15:42 PM PST

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