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  •  Outside spending neutralized some DCCC . . . (0+ / 0-)

    advantages.  I don't know what the official final tally is, but as of mid-October the GOP had over a $1 million edge.  In the context of a national election that's not a huge advantage, but it probably helped.

    I think part of the argument for Boehner's stalling is that he thinks the GOP will be in a stronger position in 2014.  The mid-terms have some built in advantages for the GOP (gerrymandering, and older, more reliable mid-term voters).  So undoubtedly, he thinks a later negotiation will be on more favorable terrain.  Also there's an outside chance that the GOP could recapture the Senate, which would give it additional leverage.

    The worst possible outcome would be to see the GOP standing in the way of a deal, which might actually undermine those built-in mid-term advantages.  

    •  Im still standing by my (0+ / 0-)

      position that there is no political cost to obstructionism.

      May have noticed it was never an issue in the campaign. Why? Because people don't give a shit about process. They care about policy and personality and ideology. And rightly so. But not process.

      •  Unfortunately Obama didn't campaign like Truman (0+ / 0-)

        against the "Do-nothing Congress" so there is no empirical test.  The gerrymanders and dark money helped them, but our side did not do enough to hold them accountable for the extremist Ryan budget and the default hostage taking.  

        Last fall, Obama said "Pass this jobs bill right now!" often enough so that we political types all remember it.  If he had relentlessly reminded the voters of that throughout the campaign, we might now be discussing the strategic options of incoming Speaker Pelosi.

        There's no such thing as a free market!

        by Albanius on Fri Nov 16, 2012 at 11:56:23 PM PST

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      •  Agree about process, up to a point . . . (0+ / 0-)

        if the GOP refuses to pass the existing extension of the Bush tax cuts for those below $250K there is no cost, unless people are aware that the legislation exists and that it wasn't put into law because the GOP House refused to move on the measure before the end of the year.

        There are limits on the process side of the issue, but outside pressure can work.  The president using his bully pulpit can work.  This stuff matters in terms of framing.  I don't think in 2009-2010 that the public was aware of the extent of GOP obstruction.  This is part of the way that a narrative gets built.

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