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  •  Clinton? ... Absolutely not (0+ / 0-)

    He basically accepted the Reagan framing. His neoliberal agenda simply gave us Reagonomics with some compassion. He certainly didn't significantly change the direction of any policy, domestic or foreign.

    President Obama? ... The jury is out. We will see what his second term brings.

    A proud member of the Professional Left since 1967.

    by slatsg on Sat Nov 17, 2012 at 08:28:34 PM PST

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    •  Not true (1+ / 0-)
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      Clinton may have been a bit more centrist than many around here, including myself, would have liked.  But the reality was that the old FDR/Truman/Johnson version of liberalism had become outmoded.  Clinton essentially provided a modernizing direction for liberalism, and Obama has continued that legacy.  

      Just to clarify: are you really arguing that Reagan was a greater president than Clinton?  Or are you just suggesting that Clinton is overrated by current liberals, like me?  If it's the former, I can't imagine how you arrive at that conclusion; if it's the latter, I can at least see your point, though I disagree with you.

      •  Again I am not suggesting that Reagan (0+ / 0-)

        was in any way a great President. He was, unfortunately, very influential and had a much greater impact than Clinton.

        To use an extreme example, Joseph Stalin had a tremendous influence on the course of the Russian Revolution. His impact was enormous. Was that a positive thing? Absolutely not. But one can not deny the impact he had.

        Reagan wasn't Stalin, but his impact on the United States and on the world was decidedly negative. But to deny his influence would not only ignear reality, but IMO hinder our attempts to move the country away from Reaganism.

        While Clinton was a better president, he was not a game changing president in the manner of FDR or Reagan.

        NotGeorgeWill argues in the comment just above that Clinton, in accepting the Reagan framing,  may have simply made the best of the situation he inherited.

        Even if that is true, it simply reinforces the point that Clinton worked within the Reagan paradigm. It also shows how important it is for  Democratic president to be transformational.

        A proud member of the Professional Left since 1967.

        by slatsg on Sun Nov 18, 2012 at 05:51:33 AM PST

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