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  •  I was "slapped" unconscious. Is that legal? n/t (2+ / 0-)
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    I woke up and it was dark out.  It had been light out when I saw the hand swinging toward my face.  
    I guess since it is legal, it is okay tho, right?

    "Anything you do in life will be insignificant but it is important that you do it anyway. " Ghandi

    by JillS on Sun Nov 18, 2012 at 08:08:44 AM PST

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    •  that's one of the most hyperbolic responses I have (1+ / 0-)
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      ever seen.  Also a mischaracterization of what I said worthy of the likes of John McCain.

      I'm referring to the title.  Was this kid unconscious?  Certainly doesn't sound like it.  As in: no.

      •  No, it wasn't hyperbolic (0+ / 0-)

        it was a real life story of another user in which case the slap was abusive.

        When a weaker human being is physically slapped by a stronger one, it very much can be abusive, it is POSSIBLE that it is abuse, but we all agree the circumstances determine if it was or wasn't.

        A 50-pound child slapping their larger, stronger parent during a temper tantrum is not considered abuse. A mother slapping her 17 year old's face for cursing at her, not so much either. How about a man slapping a woman's face? both adults?... different scenario. Would your friend in social services characterize that as a sign of abuse? OR Would they counsel the woman, "Hey, no biggie, go ahead and stay in the relationship, you probably deserved it?'

        Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. ~ Yoda Political Compass: -8.50, -6.46

        by Cinnamon on Sun Nov 18, 2012 at 10:25:55 AM PST

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        •  while I am truly sorry that another member of DKos (0+ / 0-)

          had to endure such treatment--it really has zero to do with my post.  

          Your hypotheticals aren't providing any insight to a diary which mentions nothing else than a grandfather slapped a kid, then the diarists' own musings on the situation.

          •  JillS is the one you should apologize to (3+ / 0-)

            My hypotheticals were not intended to provide insight into the incident, since I was not a first-hand witness.  They were intended to illustrate that context is important for understanding whether or not an individual instance of a slap was abusive. I concede the point that not all slaps are abusive, but the opposite is also true: not all slaps aren't abusive. SOME are. It depends on who's doing the slapping, who's receiving it, the strength, speed, and force of the blow, and the circumstances surrounding it.

            And also, in this circumstances, the question arises if that person had authority and permission to begin with. He was characterized as NOT a parent, and no parent being around to give consent for this. That alone is questionable, and when it comes to suspected child abuse, the right thing to do in questionable circumstances is to report the incident.

            Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. ~ Yoda Political Compass: -8.50, -6.46

            by Cinnamon on Sun Nov 18, 2012 at 01:57:35 PM PST

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            •  Not an apology. I expressed sympathy but I don't (0+ / 0-)

              retract my comment.  Sure, a slap COULD be a sign of abuse--anything COULD--but I see nothing in the diary that supports it.  I believe in the presumption of innocence, not guilt.  This diary does nothing to demonstrate that I have erred in that presumption.

    •  That is not "a" slap. (0+ / 0-)

      A slap is not child abuse by definition.

      I used to be Snow White. And then I drifted. - Mae West

      by CherryTheTart on Sun Nov 18, 2012 at 12:51:57 PM PST

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