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  •  I think drugs and drunk are ways (4+ / 0-)

    to self medicate. I think the things that people self medicate FOR are a root cause, but I could be wrong.

    American Television is a vast sea of stupid. -xxdr zombiexx

    by glitterscale on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 12:59:27 PM PST

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    •  That is what I was trying to say. (1+ / 0-)
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      Just wanted to use a less easily dismissed, sanitized?, term.

      self medicate

      "Til you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules" John Lennon - Working Class Hero

      by Horace Boothroyd III on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 02:49:07 PM PST

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    •  I have known so many (4+ / 0-)

      in my business (music) who did exactly that.

      If you ever see the movie "Bird" (yeah, it's an Eastwood film, but he is capable of dong good art sometimes) you will see exactly that.  Charlie Parker 'self-medicated' because life was too much for him.

      I worked with guys who had worked with bird, and they all pretty much tell it the same way.  Miles Davis, too.

      I am not religious, and did NOT say I enjoyed sects.

      by trumpeter on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 04:26:05 PM PST

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      •  Yes, as lot of creative people (1+ / 0-)
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        Are very sensitive, and respond to everything in their environment.

        Combine that with the fact that few understand them, so they often come up against people that judge them harshly, and you end up with a desire to self-medicate.

        Women create the entire labor force. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sympathy is the strongest instinct in human nature. - Charles Darwin

        by splashy on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 10:14:33 PM PST

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    •  Absolutely they are (0+ / 0-)

      In fact, in my experience, a lot of the time folks that want to incapacitate themselves like that could be doing others a favor by doing that, in that if they were completely straight they might not be easy to handle.

      What they need is a place to hang out, get high, and not bother anyone.

      Women create the entire labor force. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sympathy is the strongest instinct in human nature. - Charles Darwin

      by splashy on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 10:12:58 PM PST

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