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  •  When I went to school in geology, oil shale was (0+ / 0-)

    pretty much the laughing stock of energy production. We didn't even discuss oil sands at the time. At least not that I remember.

    It seemed patently absurd to pursue oil shale.

    Now I look at the situation and conclude, yes, it's laughable but in a completely different way.

    Yes, our energy policies are laughable. I worry that any cooperation between Wyden/Murkowski will result in everything we DON'T want and nothing or little we do want.

    Maybe I'm entirely wrong, but I cannot imagine energy policy getting BETTER with anti-science, anti-environmental wingers in the mix. It wasn't this bad in 2007.

    I'm not sure we SHOULD pursue an energy policy at this point.

    202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

    by cany on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 07:32:33 PM PST

    •  Oil shale or shale oil? n/t (0+ / 0-)

      Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

      by Meteor Blades on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 10:05:01 PM PST

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    •  Because of high extraction costs? (1+ / 0-)
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      I've been making this argument for more than a year.

      "Energy independence" is the industry's big lie. Because of their high extraction costs these resources are strictly economically dependent on high prices in global crude markets. I.e. Shell (etc.) only takes its narrow margins on Canadian tar sands or Dakota shale oil if it still makes bigger margins on its contracts with OPEC nations.

      Passive renunciation is not the whole of wisdom.

      by play jurist on Tue Nov 20, 2012 at 01:54:52 AM PST

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      •  Not just the cost, but the energy spent doing it (0+ / 0-)

        and the environmental damage with this and most certainly with gas fracking. It's such a Neanderthal approach, isn't it?

        202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

        by cany on Tue Nov 20, 2012 at 02:47:02 AM PST

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