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  •  Thank you for coming back to defend your diary. (11+ / 0-)

    It is always a good idea to publish diaries when you have some time to stick around and engage/shepherd the conversation in your diary. This is especially true when you write on hot topics that arouse strong feelings on both sides.

    You have stepped into a hornet's nest, because there have been hundreds of arguments about this exact metaphor: comparing Israelis to Nazis in debates about Israel and Palestine.

    I'll link to and repeat parts of three comments I made yesterday on this issue:

    It was decided long ago that in I/P diaries it is simply cruel and unnecessary to compare Israelis to Nazis; there are always better and less hurtful ways to make your points.

    You may have intended to share in debate, but all you have made, here in this thread, is a mess.

    There is no truth so narrow that it requires us to draw a narrow, false and enormously hurtful equivalency between Israelis and Nazis. Anyone who does that is deliberately setting off the emotional equivalent of a scream.

    If there is a point to be made, it can be made far more effectively for the purposes of constructive debate by using some of the other hundreds of thousands of words in our shared language.

    My argument is clearly demonstrated by this very thread. Look at how many dozens of comments have gone into this angry distraction, taking us away from the far more serious subject of this fine diary...

    Read my sig line: I am an ardent advocate of free speech.

    I have no problem with anyone quoting that one specific example of idiocy: it was made, we shouldn't deny it.

    But I have seen plenty of comparisons of Israelis to Nazis made in I/P diaries, and every single one added more heat than light to the debate. So we all just agreed to stop doing it.

    Yes, apartheid would be a better analogy. You would still raise some people's hackles, but there is no outright prohibition of that metaphor in Israel/Palestine debates on Daily Kos.

    It would be a good idea for you to spend more time in I/P diaries, and get a sense of what's acceptable, before stirring things up even more, I think.

    "Every man has a right to utter what he thinks truth" Samuel Johnson

    by Brecht on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 03:04:14 PM PST

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