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  •  Not Joking (0+ / 0-)

    Nothing funny about this.  Very interested to hear your thoughts.  

    •  See Above.. They are not my thoughts they are (2+ / 0-)
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      Mets102, mahakali overdrive

      flat history. IF you don't know the difference between Gaza and Warsaw then you don't know history. Period. AND if you do know history and you still make that comparison then you are a liar or a stone racist/bigot.

      Only the Nazi's were the Nazi's... If Israel were anything like the Nazi's, Gaza wouldn't be there today and every Palestinian in both Gaza and the West Bank would be dead. Understand that.

      "'Touch it dude' - President Barack Obama"

      by volleyboy1 on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 04:14:51 PM PST

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      •  maybe you could use all caps. (4+ / 0-)

        from the history i know - and i know, really, a very general amount - there are comparisons to be made, sadly.

        no group "owns" oppression.. i'm sure cambodians, russians, rwandans, native americans, south africans would all argue any claim to unique and "ultimate depth" of pain from the nazi party.

        you want to argue that - because israel's just bombing gaza but not doing air raids, there's no comparison to warsaw?  haven't these situations, in both cases, involve the systematic and longterm dis-empowerment, even for the basics of human life?  aren't these both politically-created ghettos?  

        you shoot out accusations of racism for having other views than yours - seemingly.  you don't have the market on the truth; you have a bully pulpit from what i can see.  yell louder, scream harder, but that will a) not change facts; or b) change points of view.

        Romney in a landslide!

        by jj24 on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 04:31:43 PM PST

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        •  Maybe you could actually use Caps.... (1+ / 0-)
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          Mets102

          You feel like actually addressing my points or do you simply feel like saying "Well I don't really understand the issue so instead I am going to whine about you using caps"?

          As for this:

          you want to argue that - because israel's just bombing gaza but not doing air raids, there's no comparison to warsaw?
          Really??? Really - that is your comeback? Do you actually know anything of the history of the Nazi's? Seriously? Do you think the Israelis are simply just destroying things in an attempt to wipe the Palestinian people from the face of the earth.

          Do you really think that the Israelis are operating Death camps like Aushwitz, or Treblinka, or Sorbibor and carting people from Gaza to those camps?

          The Nazi's were genocidal lunatics and the Warsaw Ghetto was a mere "way station" to the death of the Jews in Warsaw. You think somehow that compares to Gaza? Really?

          "'Touch it dude' - President Barack Obama"

          by volleyboy1 on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 04:48:47 PM PST

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          •  really?????? seriously??????? (3+ / 0-)
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            just put me down as against whatever you're for.  maybe someday you can articulate your points without such disdain for others.

            Romney in a landslide!

            by jj24 on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 05:20:07 PM PST

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            •  Well ok then.... (1+ / 0-)
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              Mets102
              just put me down as against whatever you're for.
              Well I figured as much. I mean I oppose racism, prejudice, and bigotry of all kinds. Apparently you are in favor of all those things given your exact words. I am for truth, anti-propaganda and a reality based political philosophy. I can see from your comments that you are against all of that. So yeah, I can easily put you down as against those things. Thanks for confirming what I already knew.
              maybe someday you can articulate your points without such disdain for others.
              No.. bigots and ignorant fools deserve disdain. See, I don't respect those who harbor racist or bigoted thoughts. I see no reason to treat them with anything but disdain. Oh and that goes for the way I treat the racists on my side as well. I would just as soon not have them anywhere near my position and my commentary record proves it.

              "'Touch it dude' - President Barack Obama"

              by volleyboy1 on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 05:49:17 PM PST

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    •  I have a piece by (2+ / 0-)
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      Mark LeVine you might be interested in reading, on why Gaza, Warsaw Ghetto analogies are not valid.

      Gaza is no Warsaw Ghetto

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