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  •  I'm not minimizing anything. (1+ / 0-)
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    Dogs are fuzzy

    I haven't been to Gaza--but I have been to the West Bank and seeing the disparity between life there (as in Palestinian sections of E. Jerusalem) and the rest of Israel is what made me see the error of my own judgment wrt Israel.

    I use the holocaust denial example as an overstated extreme to demonstrate a point--not to equate.  You of course know that.

    And--objectively--it's not Treblinka.  The purpose of the miltary onslaught is not to kill for fun, but to eliminate a perceived security threat: ie. rocket fire.  You can argue that the threat is overstated and the results disastrous--but they are still not systematic death camps that exist for the sole purpose of death.  They're simply not, and to pretend that they are is nonsense.  I value no one life over another life.

    •  no, i don't know that you weren't equating, (1+ / 0-)
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      or else i wouldn't have said so.

      as to israel's justification:  my eyes see a different reality.  the US justified its unjustifiable actions with iraq in the same way you just did with israel... "perceived security threat."  lol.  yeah, i know all about unjustifiable killing from watching my own country do it.  

      peres is on CNN now, claiming that the palestinians are "Producers of death."  3 Israelis dead; 100+ palestinians, dead.  or 40 yrs now, i've been watching israel do this shit, and bitching that "they can stop this at any time, but they won't stop."

      i think i can figure this out on my own.

      and it somehow makes you feel good to assert that israel is minus the death camp aspect of this oppression?  or that because the degree isn't as severe, that it's not oppression?  what exactly is your argument?  far more important, what is israel's goals here?

      oh, good god, peres is now claiming iran is "a world problem; a center of world terror."  israel is like a spoiled, unruly child with the US as the crazy parent who can't say "no."  

      Romney in a landslide!

      by jj24 on Mon Nov 19, 2012 at 06:14:57 PM PST

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