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  •  I disagree, at least for the democrats in power (46+ / 0-)

    After Reagan kicked democrat ass and p[eople declared the party dead along came the DLC and their big dog Bill. Boy, the GOP got mad and screamed at him for adopting their program especially on economics. Clinton broke with the unions and used his Presidential leverage to romance Wall Street. He then joined the republicans against the democrats and passed laws like NAFTA. His big declaration the "the era of big government is over" was heralded around the world and signaled democrats now also were on board with neo-liberal economics (better know as Reaganomics and the trickle-down theory).

    He and the DLC then proceeded to try to purge liberals from government in all excutive positions of the breaucracy and congressional committees. They were successful in the main although some liberals survived they were relegated to the back benches.

    Since that time the neo-liberals have run the party and at times the nation. Tax cutting is their portfolio and defense is their baliwick. K-street and Wall Street have more clout than main street. It was heartening that Obama met with labor and liberals last week. Hopefully it meant a change but as of now the neo-liberals are still in charge of the party. How Obama handles the so-called 'fiscal cliff' will determine if progressives will continue to have a seat at the table.

    America could have chosen to be the worlds doctor, or grocer. We choose instead to be her policeman. pity

    by cacamp on Tue Nov 20, 2012 at 09:21:35 PM PST

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    •  You have published zero diaries (12+ / 0-)

      I stay outta people's business, all right, but you're a good writer and I would enjoy some formal work from you.

      •  thanks for the kind words (3+ / 0-)
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        I enjoy reading and commenting and one day I might even write a diary but so far I see plenty of diaries that pose the questions I want to comment upon so I take the lazy route and let others do the heavy lifting.

        America could have chosen to be the worlds doctor, or grocer. We choose instead to be her policeman. pity

        by cacamp on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 09:05:14 AM PST

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    •  The data shows that increased revenues (8+ / 0-)

      at the federal level bring increased prosperity for the society as a whole, including increases in the purchasing power of the working and middle classes. Call it what you will-- redistribution of wealth, a smattering of socialism-- who cares? It's the stuff that makes the "pursuit of happiness" within reach for those who aren't born wealthy.

      By any means, I'm not wealthy. Nevertheless, I wouldn't mind paying more in taxes if it meant that that my kids, and their kids, could get a high quality education, see a job market with lots of good opportunities, have universal health care, and know that an honest day's work will bring a decent paycheck. If it also means that we, as a nation and as a species, can thrive while keeping our environmental footprint as small as possible, then all the better.

    •  Politics is like nature (2+ / 0-)
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      because it also abhors a vacuum. Right now, Romney and the rest have left one, and it is filling up again, just as it must.
      The presence of a conservative opposition is as necessary as winter. We can only hope to make it more sensible by small amounts over time.

    •  Simpson-Bowles (CFC) exemplifies your thesis (2+ / 0-)
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      Both of the last 2 Dem presidents specifically cited the CFC in their DNC speeches.  The president specifically cited the CFC in his Des Moines Register interview:

      So when you combine the Bush tax cuts expiring, the sequester in place, the commitment of both myself and my opponent -- at least Governor Romney claims that he wants to reduce the deficit -- but we’re going to be in a position where I believe in the first six months we are going to solve that big piece of business.

      It will probably be messy. It won’t be pleasant. But I am absolutely confident that we can get what is the equivalent of the grand bargain that essentially I’ve been offering to the Republicans for a very long time, which is $2.50 worth of cuts for every dollar in spending, and work to reduce the costs of our health care programs.

      And we can easily meet -- “easily” is the wrong word -- we can credibly meet the target that the Bowles-Simpson Commission established of $4 trillion in deficit reduction, and even more in the out-years, and we can stabilize our deficit-to-GDP ratio in a way that is really going to be a good foundation for long-term growth. Now, once we get that done, that takes a huge piece of business off the table.

      Some men see things as they are and ask why. I dream of things that never were and ask why not?

      by RFK Lives on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 07:53:21 AM PST

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      •  Agreed S/B is a republican answer to the problem (1+ / 0-)
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        But many democrats are now using it as their starting point in the negotiations while the GOP has moved their position farther to the right. To me that clearly shows how the democratic party has accepted Reaganomics as their governing philosophy.

        America could have chosen to be the worlds doctor, or grocer. We choose instead to be her policeman. pity

        by cacamp on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 09:10:26 AM PST

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