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  •  Yeah, off-topic but people do need to accept that (6+ / 0-)

    not every state can have a Bernie Sanders.  For a senate seat in the South, I'll accept any Dem that's better than Lieberman or Zell Miller.  If they vote with us on procedural votes and mission-critical stuff and don't go to a GOP convention to support the other candidate, I can overlook almost anything from a solidly red state Senator.  Almost.

    (Although Georgia is decades from becoming an honest-to-G-d swing state, if it ever does, it is worth noting that the population there is diversifying a lot.  But I don't know if that'll turn it into Mississippi, where votes break down almost entirely on race and so the 40%-ish black population always gets voted down by the 55%-ish white population in statewide races.).

    "The first drawback of anger is that it destroys your inner peace; the second is that it distorts your view of reality. If you come to understand that anger is really unhelpful, you can begin to distance yourself from anger." - The Dalai Lama

    by auron renouille on Fri Nov 23, 2012 at 07:06:48 PM PST

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    •  And besides, we have a pragmatic reason for (2+ / 0-)
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      supporting Conservadems in red states: the other side won't support their Establishment Republicans anymore (there is no such thing as  Liberal Republican now).  So while they're shooting themselves in both feet repeatedly, we can make sure not to make that mistake.  Get the right person in the seat for each state or district.  If that means only a Conservadem can win, then we have to support the Conservadems there.

      But there is no reason to support people like Lieberman in a blue state like Connecticut, and it was a pleasure to watch his own party reject him.  Too bad the voters weren't smart enough to reject him twice.  At least he's finally gone.

      And again, pdc, excellent, excellent diary.

    •  Georgia is not decades away. (4+ / 0-)
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      Look at the data, not your prejudices.

      Georgia  could have been North Carolina if Team Obama had wanted to spend the money. (They sure weren't shy about fundraising in states such as Georgia and Texas) The demographics in Georgia favor us even more than in North Carolina and the election results in 08 and this year do not suggest that the state is decades away.

      I hope future Democratic nominees will be aggressive about expanding the map. In the meantime, we need to work hard building state parties and running good candidates in great campaigns.

      "There is nothing more dreadful than the habit of doubt. Doubt separates people. It is a poison that disintegrates friendships and breaks up pleasant relations. It is a thorn that irritates and hurts; it is a sword that kills.".. Buddha

      by sebastianguy99 on Fri Nov 23, 2012 at 11:08:43 PM PST

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    •  No, I'd rather have a slightly iconoclastic... (0+ / 0-)

      ...Republican like Chambliss than a conservadem.  Conservadems piss in our tent, while Chambliss pisses in the Republican tent.  Politics is dynamic and to me a dynamic analysis says we should be happier with Chambliss than with some pre-conversion Zell.  

      You know, I sometimes think if I could see, I'd be kicking a lot of ass. -Stevie Wonder at the Glastonbury Festival, 2010

      by Rich in PA on Sat Nov 24, 2012 at 04:50:54 AM PST

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