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  •  I think they needed him for healthcare reform. (1+ / 0-)
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    He who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.

    by Sophie Amrain on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 09:01:39 AM PST

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    •  IIRC, the ACA was passed via reconciliation (1+ / 0-)
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      That took only 51 votes (or 50+ Biden).

      Some men see things as they are and ask why. I dream of things that never were and ask why not?

      by RFK Lives on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 09:59:29 AM PST

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      •  Only part of it (1+ / 0-)
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        Concerning the tax increases. Most of the actual bill was passed with all 60 Dems having to vote on it together.

        Republicans are far more socialist than Democrats. Just because they want to redistribute the wealth upwards does not make it any better.

        by MrAnon on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 10:39:30 AM PST

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        •  W/ Coakley's loss, weren't there only 59 Dems (0+ / 0-)

          by that point?

          Some men see things as they are and ask why. I dream of things that never were and ask why not?

          by RFK Lives on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 11:04:35 AM PST

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          •  The main PPACA was passed (2+ / 0-)
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            Shortly before Brown won, when Paul Kirk was the acting Senator. I believe it was passed on Christmast eve. The reconciliation amendment and the House version passed later, and the bill was finally signed in March of the following year.

            Republicans are far more socialist than Democrats. Just because they want to redistribute the wealth upwards does not make it any better.

            by MrAnon on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 11:08:03 AM PST

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    •  They did, plus, the Senate was on a knife-edge (1+ / 0-)
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      at the time.

      Al Franken had not yet won his seat. Burris had not yet been appointed from Illinois. Specter was still a Republican.

      The Dems did not have 60 votes at the time. They needed three Republicans (Specter, Snowe and Collins) to pass the Stimulus bill.

      Lieberman was a pain. He helped torpedo the public option (even though we're getting one anyway, heh heh), and insisted that if his own idea of allowing folks to buy into Medicare at 55 was put into the bill, he'd vote against it.

      But he voted with the Dems most of the time.

      Politics. Ya gotta do those nasty deals or do nothing, usually.

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      by Fonsia on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 10:57:57 AM PST

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