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  •  Apples to Oranges. (6+ / 0-)

    This is a different team on a different mission. I have been observing closely. The scientific professionalism I've seen so far suggests no reason to fear the kind of result you allude to.

    Aren't you glad that the clueless won't get a chance to run the country again, just yet? Yeah. Me too.

    by LeftOfYou on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 06:57:15 PM PST

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    •  Hope you are right (4+ / 0-)
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      I do hope you are right.  I work with faculty, many of whom are outstanding scholars in their field.  And many of whom I wouldn't trust to poor water out of a boot if instructions were written on the heel.  It's easy to forget that scientists are people too and are just as fallible and blind to the past as any other human.

      As much as I want a truly earthshaking announcement, I still cannot help but note the similarities to the arsenic claim and the previous claim of evidence for life in a meteorite.  See http://www.space.com/....  

      1) Overly enthusiastic claims?  Check.
      2) Wild public speculation based on the vague assertions?  Check.  [Yes, I know public speculation isn't controlled by the scientist, but the scientist should know that the vague, hyperbolic statements will result in wild speculation. ]
      3) Announcement made to mainstream press before the scientific press?  Check.

      I know it wasn't NASA, but remember the faster than light neutrinos from a year ago?  I'll take the XKCD sort of reverse Pascal's Wager approach.  http://xkcd.com/...

      •  It is very likely that (5+ / 0-)

        Dr. Grotzinger chose the word "historic" for a very specific reason. This discovery is big enough that the day it is announced will be forever remembered as the day that . . . .

        Aren't you glad that the clueless won't get a chance to run the country again, just yet? Yeah. Me too.

        by LeftOfYou on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 07:23:23 PM PST

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        •  nonetheless he spoke too soon (3+ / 0-)
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          There's a reason they're not going to announce for another few weeks. That he called it "historic" is what bugs me most about his remarks, actually.

          I don't mean to come off as a hardened skeptic; i really hope it's something big.

          All things in the sky are pure to those who have no telescopes. – Charles Fort

          by subtropolis on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 08:15:26 PM PST

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          •  asdf (0+ / 0-)
            At the moment, Dr. G looks like a World Class academic pro who knows how to get the biggest possible bang out of a big scientific discovery. Hurrah, I say. We need more government scientists like that.
            We don't know that there's a big scientific discovery, unless they've discovered hype on Mars.
            •  Yeah, that's it. (1+ / 0-)
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              Government scientists worried that the recent election may have depleted Earth's supply of hype to unsustainably low levels have discovered the solar system's largest known deposit of hype on Mars. Describing the vast deposit as "astonishingly superficial, and easy to mine, even for hype", Dr. O.I. Balloon in an exclusive interview with Geraldo Rivera told the reporter he did not yet have further details of the discovery but expected to i the coming months.

    •  that it's a different team (1+ / 0-)
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      … doesn't make it a false equivalency. It is, but not for that reason. I think the point the OP was making is that they ought to be careful about stoking anticipation like this when they won't be revealing all for several weeks.

      All things in the sky are pure to those who have no telescopes. – Charles Fort

      by subtropolis on Wed Nov 21, 2012 at 08:09:05 PM PST

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