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  •  Oh boy, I guess I have to be the Amnesia Police (16+ / 0-)

    yet again.  Hillary Clinton is not a hero just because you know her name - her career in politics was embarrassing, and only got more embarrassing when she ran for president the first time.  She was the embodiment of everything wrong with our Party until Barack Obama saved us from it - the valueless, spineless, broken-moral-compass world of weathervane "leadership" and plankton-like obedience to media narratives.  Find someone else.

    As for the VP, it's a little early in Julian Castro's career to be talking about a national ticket.  Obama was heading into the United States Senate when he gave his introductory speech to a national audience in 2004.  That's a lot closer to the presidency than being the mayor of San Antonio, which is a position only marginally closer to the White House than being Governor of Alaska.  And, on a personal note, I wasn't impressed with the speech Castro gave - he sounded like he was apologizing for not being a conservative.  And I simply don't trust political leaders from Texas - the Republicans are evil incarnate, and the Democrats are untrustworthy.  Hopefully we will have increased the range of options over the next few years.

    "They fear this man. They know he will see farther than they, and he will bind them with ancient logics." -The stoner guy in The Cabin in the Woods

    by Troubadour on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 01:07:27 PM PST

    •  Agreed (7+ / 0-)

      If Elizabeth Warren runs, she would be the person I support.

      I'm looking for someone who will continue the progress made by the Obama administration, but also improve where President Obama has been imperfect (in other words civil liberties, drug wars, secrecy of drones, etc). I'd also want someone who is pragmatic (for this reason, I would not support someone like Kucinich or Gravel). Elizabeth Warren fits all three of those, and I will strongly support her should she run.

      Republicans are far more socialist than Democrats. Just because they want to redistribute the wealth upwards does not make it any better.

      by MrAnon on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 02:34:12 PM PST

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      •  I defnitely want Warren in the mix (0+ / 0-)

        but I don't yet have nearly enough information to say she would be the best choice.  She's certainly gifted and bold enough to be president, but campaigning on a national stage is another matter altogether.  There's also the fact that she might not want to be president - at least not that soon after entering political life.  

        But I absolutely would want her to run so we can find out what she's capable of as a nationwide campaigner.  In fact, I want as many good people as possible running - we have to avoid falling back into the Insider Mediocrity business no matter what.

        "They fear this man. They know he will see farther than they, and he will bind them with ancient logics." -The stoner guy in The Cabin in the Woods

        by Troubadour on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 03:35:53 PM PST

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      •  Now THAT is someone who is definitely (3+ / 0-)
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        not qualified at this point, and shouldn't even be talked about. Castro's been a mere mayor? Right now, Warren has been a mere NOTHING. At this point, I can guarantee that Elizabeth Warren is not a candidate I would support and she's not a candidate that could win. She's just not, right now, any rational kind of good candidate, just because she's all dreamy to a certain cadre of progressives.

        I want to see actual accomplishments in elected office.

        Jon Husted is a dick.

        by anastasia p on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 04:23:22 PM PST

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        •  Warren has done way more than Castro (2+ / 0-)
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          Wee Mama, MrAnon

          She proposed, lobbied for, and set up an important federal agency (Consumer Financial Protection Bureau), she chaired the congressional oversight panel of TARP. By 2016, she will have as much senate experience as Barack Obama.

          Hillary Clinton is experienced, but what does she believe in? It seems to me like she's another slippery, say anything politician like Bill and will likely embrace neoliberal economics of Bill (deregulation, capital gains tax cuts, welfare reform etc), and will most likely continue the interventionist foreign policy and breakdown of civil liberties that started under Bush.

          Unless you can convince me that Hillary Clinton will fight for progressive values, I'll say no thanks.

          "Poor man wanna be rich, Rich man wanna be King, and the King ain't satisfied till he rules everything." Bruce Springsteen.

          by Johnnythebandit on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:26:38 PM PST

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        •  A "nothing"? (0+ / 0-)

          By 2016, Warren will have more experience than Obama had in 2008. Not only will she have served 4 years in the Senate, she will have worked in building the CFPB and being tasked with overseeing TARP.

          Republicans are far more socialist than Democrats. Just because they want to redistribute the wealth upwards does not make it any better.

          by MrAnon on Fri Nov 23, 2012 at 05:52:58 PM PST

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    •  Revisionist history (3+ / 0-)
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      Hillary Clinton was a well liked and well regarded Senator with significant legislative accomplishments, including bills to assist 9/11 rescue workers, protect NY watersheds, protect forest in Puerto Rico, and to protect children in car accidents.

      She's been an outstanding Secretary of State, with her impressiveness on display even within the last few days (brokering a cease fire in Israel.) She's been an energetic globe trotter for a far more practical and workable foreign policy than Bush/Rice, and restored the State Dept. to its rightful place at the centre of US diplomacy (which Rumsfeld had usurped for defence.)

      I'd rather folks had amnesia than revised memories.

      Rick Perry - the greatest scientist since Galileo!

      by Bobs Telecaster on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 07:56:18 PM PST

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      •  You're offering "revised memories." (0+ / 0-)

        Hillary Clinton is a Loser Incarnate.

        "They fear this man. They know he will see farther than they, and he will bind them with ancient logics." -The stoner guy in The Cabin in the Woods

        by Troubadour on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 10:09:44 PM PST

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