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  •  Fascism will come to America (4+ / 0-)
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    Leap Year, blueoasis, Don midwest, NM Ray

    Carrying a cross and wrapped in a flag.
    Sinclair, (right?)
    American Taliban- kos
    These creeps are dead serious about this shit.  The question is, do we laugh at them, or do we take them seriously?
    We better figure it out fast, because baby, they're gaining on us...

    •  They're not gaining on us. (0+ / 0-)

      Unless you live in the South.

      •  Honestly, I dont know if they're really gaining on (2+ / 0-)
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        Freakinout daily, DvCM

        us even in the South. Their voices have gotten loud recently, but in my optimism I hope that with the growth of urban areas in the south, this stuff is going to get laughed into history as more kids are doing their own research online and questioning their parents' old, silly views. I can hope, anyway.

      •  Is Fascism already here in America? (8+ / 0-)

        The dean of political philosophers, Sheldon Wolin, wrote a book in the 1960's that brought philosophers to political science. That was a standard text in political science graduate programs for several decades.

        If one is intellectually serious about politics and the current reality, if one wants their thinking challenged big time ( for example how Plato was against democracy) I suggest that you set aside the time to learn how our system has been perverted. The rhetoric of democracy is being used to continue our American exceptionalism (i.e., we are the greatest, we are only doing good in the world and we occupy other countries for their own good, and it is OK to do surveillance on millions of Americans without warrants, etc. )
        then I recommend his book. It has a publication date of 2008 but probably most of the writing was completed by 2007.

        "Democracy Incorporated: Managed Democracy and the Specter of Inverted Totalitarianism." For example, in a normal totalitarian state, the press is controlled by the state which has all the power. Here in the USA, the press goes along with the line of American Exceptionalism and prints that Iraq has WMD and is an immediate threat so we have to invade immediately. Even today, a good percentage of the population still thinks that they had WMD, and an authentic press would hold its self accountable for the false understanding of the citizens.

        Wolin says other unspeakable things like, this is a paraphrase, it is harder to be a citizen than to be the president.

        In 2004, the journalist Ron Suskind published this famous quotation about the reality based community. This was later attributed to Karl Rove.

        The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." ... "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."
        In a later book, "The One Percent Doctrine: Deep Inside America's Pursuit of its Enemies since 9/11" Ron Suskind quoted the 60's radical priest and professor at Yale, William Sloane Coffin, who said "I never thought I would live to see the day when old fashioned journalism would be a form of civil disobedience."

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