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  •  coincidence (4+ / 0-)
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    Is it a coincidence that the Gaza/Israeli skirmish (?) waited for the US election to be over?  Is it a coincidence that the cease fire was delayed until Hillary could take some of the credit?  Was this choreographed to enable Morsi to look heroic and thus get away with a power grab?  Could it be that the US--and Israel-- want Egypt to be undemocratic--and thus more consistent?  Yes, Morsi is from a militant faction, but power often seduces zeal.

    I'm not saying this is not in America's best interests--or, that it is, but the timing is suspicious.

    Apres Bush, le deluge.

    by melvynny on Fri Nov 23, 2012 at 07:34:17 AM PST

    •  It's almost certain that (6+ / 0-)

      the Gaza skirmish was delayed until after the election purposely, since Israel controlled the timing.  The whole thing seems to be a way for Israel to beta test its missile defense system, for a later conflict with Iran.  The cease fire is probably only temporary as Israel clearly wants Gaza to become uninhabitable.

      The sleep of reason brings forth monsters. --Goya

      by MadScientist on Fri Nov 23, 2012 at 07:48:59 AM PST

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      •  We're talking about two different missle (0+ / 0-)

        defense system.

        The system located along the border with Gaza is about low altitude, relatively low speed, small projectiles.

        Doesn't have a lot to do with the Arrow system, which would be expected to knock down ICBM's.

        "the Agency continues to verify the non-diversion of declared material at these facilities and LOFs."

        by JesseCW on Sat Nov 24, 2012 at 01:08:33 AM PST

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    •  I would guess that any links between the (2+ / 0-)
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      State Department and Morsi would be just basic communications lines. I don't think anyone there is dumb enough to get involved with an unstable government like this one.

      If that stuff figures in at all, it just has to do with Morsi's political calculus.

      I don't think that any player, US or Gulf States, would be dumb enough to potentially ruin their relationship with whoever ends up ruling Egypt by supporting an unstable government.

      All of this is conjecture of course, but if I were a betting man, I would bet that all the players would be keeping their hands off of Egypt until some kind of stability emerges.

      Blowback is too likely a result, otherwise.

      An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t'Saoghail. (The truth against the world.) Is treasa tuath na tighearna. (The common people are mightier than the lords.)

      by OllieGarkey on Fri Nov 23, 2012 at 07:50:10 AM PST

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      •  wanna bet? (2+ / 0-)
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        The Muslim Brotherhood will not give up power--Morsi might go, but the Muslim right will keep control--with excessive force probably.

        Apres Bush, le deluge.

        by melvynny on Fri Nov 23, 2012 at 07:53:49 AM PST

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        •  Still not a betting man, but if I were, I'd take (3+ / 0-)
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          that bet.

          It's never wise to bet against people who've just shed their own blood for liberty.

          They've already proven they can topple tyrants.

          The people who brought down Mubarak aren't the kind of people who would lie down for Morsi.

          Over the internet, I watched them set armored antipersonnel vehicles ablaze and tip them off bridges into the Nile.

          Betting that after the terror and death they went through for freedom is going to be for so easily forgotten isn't a safe bet at all.

          An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t'Saoghail. (The truth against the world.) Is treasa tuath na tighearna. (The common people are mightier than the lords.)

          by OllieGarkey on Fri Nov 23, 2012 at 01:13:22 PM PST

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        •  For a while, until people realize (0+ / 0-)

          "same sh*t, different dictator" will not feed them or make the country stable.

          Stay fired up: now is the time to focus on downticket change! #Forward

          by emidesu on Fri Nov 23, 2012 at 02:02:27 PM PST

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        •  Agreed. Things do not look good. (0+ / 0-)

          The MB will not give up power voluntarily.

          The secularists are weak, completely disorganized, infighting, inactive, and not committed to the kind of sustained (decade-long) political fight that will be needed.

          The most likely scenario in which I'd bet on Morsi "not holding on to his office for long" is one in which his successor is  even more fundamentalist and authoritarian.

    •  It didn't wait. (4+ / 0-)

      Rockets were flying in mid-October.

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