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  •  Please be careful with this (3+ / 0-)
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    sfbob, skrekk, Scott Wooledge

    1) As you acknowledged in the diary, Boeing has a great record on LGBT issues. They're not quite as far out front in a leadership role as the Puget Sound's other big names (Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Starbucks) but they treat us well.

    2) Boeing is a leader in providing good union jobs, especially to veterans. We need them. A huge fraction of Puget Sound jobs depend on Boeing directly or indirectly. The area didn't get hit as hard by the recession as a lot of other places did, but that's all thanks to Microsoft/Google/Amazon/Boeing/Starbucks and the military bases. Our recovery is fragile and depends heavily on the big 5.

    Nothing good can come out of making this a national PR issue at this point. Hold off and see if they double down publicly on it. Until then, let the union and the lawyers handle it. That's what they're there for. The suits will try to save money in stupid and possibly-illegal places, the union will hold them off, and the lawyers will do their research and eventually advise the suits to back down.

    "Let’s just move on, treat everybody with firmness, fairness, dignity, compassion and respect. Let’s be Marines." - Sgt. Maj Michael Barrett on DADT repeal

    by kyril on Sat Nov 24, 2012 at 09:40:11 AM PST

    •  Points taken... (0+ / 0-)

      Except this: "Nothing good can come out of making this a national PR issue at this point."

      PR is the only avenue to influencing continued negotiations on this contract. If they think they can save a few pennies by cutting out benefits to same-sex couples, they just might forward and do that.

      If they think the few pennies they save are not worth the bad press it generates, they just might fold next time they come to the negotiating table.

      In addition to the fact that this story illustrates that even post-marriage equality law, inequality can and does continue.

      Supporter: "Senator, you have the vote of every thinking person!" Adlai Stevenson: "That's not enough, madam, we need a majority!"

      by Scott Wooledge on Sat Nov 24, 2012 at 10:50:26 AM PST

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    •  And I'd add... (0+ / 0-)
      Until then, let the union and the lawyers handle it.
      If the union negotiators did not want publicity on this story, they made a very bad choice being quoted by name, on the record, to the SLOG.

      I'm not reporting from a bug I placed in the negotiating room, or rumors I heard in a gay bar bathroom.

      I'm quoting on the record statements made to a major media outlet.

      If union negotiators wanted to handle this alone, away from a spotlight, they messed up big time.

      Supporter: "Senator, you have the vote of every thinking person!" Adlai Stevenson: "That's not enough, madam, we need a majority!"

      by Scott Wooledge on Sat Nov 24, 2012 at 10:54:24 AM PST

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