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  •  However, what needs to be included in that picture (2+ / 0-)
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    is the impact of climate change upon the desert tortoise. Biologists seem to think that the impact of this project can be mitigated. There's not much to be done to mitigate the impact of climate change-induced drought, however.
    It's also a little odd that you're calling out the Sierra Club here. They've been very vocal advocates on behalf of the desert tortoise here. That you're wrong as far as that goes makes me question your sources of information, which is not to say I question your positive intent.

    •  They have been recently, but that doesn't go back (1+ / 0-)
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      to my years of work. And they didn't work with Indigenous peoples, either, at that time.

      Maybe they are better now.

      202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

      by cany on Sun Nov 25, 2012 at 03:22:17 PM PST

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    •  Your point is well taken and the issue can (0+ / 0-)

      be argued both ways.

      Biologists are not all alike. Project biologists typically say everything (is always) mitigable, and that is simply NOT true. If they are getting paid by a project proponent, I don't trust their work unless it is, in fact, borne out by independent biologists whose expertise is the species in question.

      The project I was working on had the best of the best DT habitat in the Ward Valley area. Almost no upper respiratory disease, either. Yet, DOI and the project proponents saw no problem with parking radioactive waste out there and digging all over the desert. The biologists were paid by the proponent.

      Finally, when indie biologists were brought in (experts on the DT) and good USGS experts brought in (who were NOT otherwise working on any aspect of the project), things got cleared up. It took a very, very long time but we won.

      I have reviewed hundreds of EIRs and EISs and I have to say that a lot of the data can and should be questioned and IMHO, consultants should NEVER be paid for or contracted by the company that stands to make money. There is just an inherent conflict in that particular process that shows up time and time again.

      202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

      by cany on Sun Nov 25, 2012 at 03:33:35 PM PST

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