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  •  No, I don't admit it. (2+ / 0-)
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    TheLizardKing, sviscusi

    I think it's a silly assertion that has no basis in fact whatsoever, and I think it takes a measure of callousness to purposely buy increased risk to those who serve on the theory that it will prevent conflict.

    •  then i think that you fail the "reasonable person" (2+ / 0-)
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      George3, joanneleon

      test.

      thanks for playing.

      i'm part of the 99% - america's largest minority

      by joe shikspack on Mon Nov 26, 2012 at 07:48:09 AM PST

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      •  Reasonable people deal in facts. (3+ / 0-)
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        Jeff Simpson, lcj98, TheLizardKing

        Not mealy mouthed appeals to the abstract.

        •  Wow (2+ / 0-)
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          joe shikspack, ffour

          How many more times are you going to use terms like "mealy mouthed" and other demeaning insults while providing no information or opinion of substance?

          You know what's funny?  Over the weekend I saw some other fierce defenders like yourself pummeling another user with HRs for much milder insults.   Yet today, none of them are HRing you for the same kind of behavior.  How curious!    Some people are even rec'ing your trollish insulting comments and just yesterday they were so offended by the same kind of thing!  Must just be their mercurial nature. Moody lot, they are.  That must be it.

          And besides all of that, I haven't seen you make one salient point in this whole diary, Pete Cortez.

          What do you think would be a good legal framework for the drone assassination program, Pete Cortez?  In detail, please. No mealy mouthed replies now.  Fair is fair.  What is your framework?


          "Justice is a commodity"

          by joanneleon on Mon Nov 26, 2012 at 09:48:42 AM PST

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          •  The same legal framework for any act of war. (0+ / 0-)

            Why is that so hard for you to understand?

            •  Oh I see (0+ / 0-)

              your techniques.  

              For male diarists and commenters, you demean their masculinity.  For female diarists and commenters, you demean their intelligence.

              Check.

              When is an act of war legal?


              "Justice is a commodity"

              by joanneleon on Mon Nov 26, 2012 at 09:57:57 AM PST

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            •  The legal framework requires a few things you seem (1+ / 0-)
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              joe shikspack

              to be missing.

              1. Justifiable cause as determined by the UN Security Council.

              2. The failure of diplomacy.

              3. A formal declaration of war.

              4. The act of repulsing an invasion.

              5. Respect for and acceptance of the Geneva accords.

              None of these are present in Yemen or Somalia or Iraq or Afghanistan. And the use of drones against civilian populations is forbidden. And if you are the aggressor nation you are responsible for security and the rebuilding of the country you invaded. Whether you like it or not.

        •  What facts have you ever put forward Pete? (1+ / 0-)
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          joe shikspack

          All you seem to do is engage in character assassination. It will not be so abstract when we get attacked again now will it?

    •  This is all nonsense... (2+ / 0-)
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      joe shikspack, rlochow

      The fact is, there is no overall decrease in risk to human life, even if the deployers of drones are less exposed to risk.

      What people like you revealingly forget is the drones are putting all Americans at significantly increased risk of retaliation from the hatred against us caused by our drone terrorism.

      "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

      by ZhenRen on Mon Nov 26, 2012 at 09:54:12 AM PST

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