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  •  A hodge-podge patchwork of state elections laws (12+ / 0-)

    make no sense.  We need uniform standards for conducting elections to federal office.  

    I'd even trade a standard, predictable, uniform photo-ID provision if I could get in exchange standard, predictable, univorm same-day voter registration all over the country.  

    Not that we'll ever see any of that.  "States Rights", baby -- and yeah, that still means pretty much what it always meant.

    "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

    by lgmcp on Mon Nov 26, 2012 at 10:26:24 AM PST

      •  only if you also keep offices and courts open (2+ / 0-)
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        dragonlady, Neon Mama

        If it's a true national holiday, absentee ballots don't get delivered in time because the post office doesn't deliver. The courts are closed, so if there's a problem you have no way to challenge it before the polls close. State offices like the Secretary of State and AG are closed.

        It's highly tempting, but also highly problematic.

        In NH, where it was a state holiday, we (ACLU) had to make a special agreement with the Secretary of State, the AG election law person, and the court system, to have people available including a couple of judges, to handle problems such as (true story) a town clerk refusing to accept a passport instead of a birth certificate as proof of age & citizenship for same-day registration.

    •  well, to be fair (2+ / 0-)
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      lgmcp, a gilas girl

      this isn't exactly a nuanced right-wing libertarian concept... it is explicitly called out in Art II that state legislatures control their own elections.

      It would be very hard legally, not even touching upon politically or realistically, to try to force federal standards on that with any kind of enforcement.

      Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

      by Wisper on Mon Nov 26, 2012 at 11:09:44 AM PST

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      •  I realize it's the reality and unlikely to change (0+ / 0-)

        but I still think it would be more fair to voters to have clear and consistent procedures.

        "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

        by lgmcp on Mon Nov 26, 2012 at 11:12:30 AM PST

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        •  The end-around would be to leverage $$$$ (2+ / 0-)
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          lgmcp, CA wildwoman

          If the federal govt provided funding for elections then they would be allowed to attach strings to that money.  This is how we get national standards for other explicit state-rights issues like education and highways.

          The fact that states could opt out of the federal money and then run their own elections as they saw fit would be enough to preserve the constitutionality since submitting to the standards is a voluntary act.

          Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

          by Wisper on Mon Nov 26, 2012 at 11:17:53 AM PST

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      •  Article II Explicitly Allows A Federal Override (2+ / 0-)
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        Neon Mama, CA wildwoman

        Article II, Section 4, 1st paragraph:

        The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

        On the Internet, nobody knows if you're a dog... but everybody knows if you're a jackass.

        by stevemb on Mon Nov 26, 2012 at 04:02:07 PM PST

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