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  •  so... (2+ / 0-)
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    shrike, slowbutsure

    You're saying that all of these people who used to have a relationship with GS somehow still work for GS?

    •  I think he's saying (5+ / 0-)

      they have that Wall Street banker mentality.

      •  ahh, so GS is a metaphor. (3+ / 0-)
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        slowbutsure, FG, Lujane

        Sorry I missed that. I got confused because he literally lists people with former GS relationships.

        •  GS does a much better job of it (2+ / 0-)
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          slowbutsure, Lujane

          than most other Wall Street financial entities, so maybe it does have some degree of value as an incubator.  

          Granted, not all Wall Street financial evil issues from GS.  Neither Greenspan nor Volcker ever worked for GS; nor did even Jeffrey Sachs.

          I'm sure that if S*ittybank were included, the situation would look even worse -- and be even more accurately depicted.

        •  A little like former members of Congress (3+ / 0-)
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          IreGyre, YucatanMan, Lujane

          being lobbyists. Not a metaphor at all.  A recognition of connections and influences not available to your run-of-the-mill filler of such posts.

          The good we secure for ourselves is precarious and uncertain, is floating in mid-air, until it is secured for all of us and incorporated into our common life. Jane Addams

          by Alice Olson on Mon Nov 26, 2012 at 03:18:54 PM PST

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        •  It's everybody knows everybody (4+ / 0-)

          in the crowd, and everybody wants to get their beak wet -- hell, some want to live in the stream -- and you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours. GS people have lunch with Well Fargo people, who go to the theater with JP Morgan people, who are in business with GS people...

          Think of it as a mighty whirlpool of associations, all of which, in action together, suck up everything they can get.

          Don't really see any way out of this short of nations deciding to exercise their sovereign right to issue currency, instead of farming it out to private actors.

          The Internet is just the tail of the Corporate Media dog.

          by Jim P on Mon Nov 26, 2012 at 07:45:00 PM PST

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    •  No (3+ / 0-)
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      dharmasyd, Jim P, YucatanMan

      but if you don't believe in coincidences and conflicts of interest, then you probably oppose ethics rules too.

      ¡Cállate o despertarás la izquierda! - protest sign in Spain

      by gjohnsit on Mon Nov 26, 2012 at 03:03:32 PM PST

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      •  I can't make heads or tails of this comment (0+ / 0-)

        Could you explain your meaning a bit more? And I certainly do not oppose ethics rules (although you'd probably argue they're just window dressing given what's actually going on).

        •  Ethics rules exist because without them, (2+ / 0-)
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          YucatanMan, gjohnsit

          and a risk of punishment, there would be no restraints on people and factions they form. This fact by itself shows that powerful interests are often ruthless, and amoral, even criminal, in acquiring more power and wealth for themselves.

          If there were no such people, there would be no need for restraint. Therefore, there are such people.

          The Internet is just the tail of the Corporate Media dog.

          by Jim P on Mon Nov 26, 2012 at 07:48:19 PM PST

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