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  •  Too much wiggle room in the wording (13+ / 0-)

    I'm with you, and I trust you more than any other person in Congress, but the wording of this leaves too much wiggle room:

    Poll after poll shows that the American people want to see deficit reduction done in a way that is fair. They do not want to see cuts in Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid while millionaires, billionaires and large corporations continue to receive huge tax breaks.
    This could imply that after millionaires, billionaires and corporations no longer receive huge tax breaks, it would be okay to cut into Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

    I would really like to see more definitive language from you and the precious few other elected officials who are pushing back against his grand bargain. I'd like to see you say NO cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, even after more taxes are paid by the wealthiest few.

    We need some really firm language right now. There is too much parsing and wiggle room being left in these statements from a lot of people on the left.

    "Justice is a commodity"

    by joanneleon on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 10:15:29 AM PST

    •  Good point (4+ / 0-)

      But I have no problem with the wording as part of an expository "fairness" argument, which is what he's done here.  The polls show support for fairness, and Sanders addresses this by arguing how cuts in entitlements are unfair.  Of course, we do not want to see cuts in Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.  Period.  There are legitimate reasons for this -- and here's one of them.  Sanders is not necessarily citing fairness as the only reason.  But I agree, he needs to go further.

      Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.

      by winsock on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 11:46:13 AM PST

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    •  I am with you on this point. (3+ / 0-)
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      joanneleon, wasatch, elwior

      The opportunity to concede benefit cuts in "exchange" for tax increases for the wealthy remains live in this phrasing.

      I say no. No benefit cuts, no changes in eligibility age, no changes in COLA calculations. No matter what.

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      by peregrine kate on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 06:27:38 PM PST

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