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    I don't see how "manual labor manufacturing" is any more of a "real job" than working at a cheap restaurant, manufacturing meals and feeding people day in and day out. I rarely eat at any fast food place for several reasons, but I know that when I do, I like to place my order and exchange money with and get my meal prepared by people who care, are intelligent, and do a good job. I don't think these should be considered throw-away jobs for kids who don't need to earn a living wage.

    I was once invited to a wedding that was held at the home of the owners of several local McD's franchises -- their son was the groom -- and at first I wondered why a home wedding... until I saw their "House" which was more of a mansion than any resort hotel... stunning, ridiculous amounts of money had been spent to create a total hawaiian theme landscape and party, including installing an entire pool/waterfall system throughout the huge back yard... it was quite unbelievable to me, how much freaking money these people had. They owned I think four McD's.

    The people who work in their restaurants make jack shit. They work, they stand on their feet, work with the public (fast food consuming public no less, and if you think that's easy you'ver never done it) and they handle our money and  our food. The work should be respected, and paid fairly. And these owners CAN afford to pay the staff a living wage. The disparity is wrong.

    •  CS in AZ, first, let's target the power brokers by (0+ / 0-)

      state.  I'm a Dean, 50 states, soon to become 51 with Puerto Rico, believer in moving beyond party divisions.

      Senator McCain needs a lesson in reality.

      Throw Down the Gauntlet

      This is snark, sorta, take it with a grain of salt.

      Senator McCain, you remind me of my father; damaged goods, soldiers who faced death, and worse, is no excuse.  I’ve given the Senator many years of respect for his service.  It’s become obvious he does not recognize the appreciation, tolerance, and forgiveness for his bellicose behavior.

      OK, Senator McCain, you want war, let’s have a war.  Not a war in Iran, Afghanistan, Egypt , Russia, China or other phantoms of your mind; let’s talk about your prospects to retain influence in the classic, noble, Roman ideal of a powerful Senator.

      Senator McCain, your challenger will be a bat shit, crazy, libertarian in the primary.  He
      (no women allowed) will be funded by Sheldon Adelson, and the Koch brothers. The least among your enemies is Joe Arpaio.

    •  Disagree (0+ / 0-)

      Fast Food jobs require near zero training, near zero education, near zero experience.  Manufacturing jobs require training, require education with an ability for ongoing learning, and the more experienced you are the more valuable you can be.  That's the difference.
      There's no disrespect meant to those people who in this economic structure are only able to find employment in this sector but there is little to drive an owner to look for people with qualifications for such jobs.  Saying that, and reitterating what might not have been clear, my issue is with the economic system we have that forces lower wage earners to undercompete each other and forces those same people to save themselves by organization instead.  I think the goal of society should be the maximum achievement based on ability and limited only by motivation and attitude rather than by the rules set by the top 1%.  If you want to spend your life working in Fast food, then fine.  And yes, a living wage, healthcare, food and shelter should be mandatory for all (as in, raise the minimum wage for a start).
      Anyway, a very complex issue to discuss in a thread like this but my first job was a BK schlub.  My second was cleaning the insides of commercial ovens.  Both sucked, now I are an engineer and work bekons.

      The third-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking with the majority. The second-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking with the minority. The first-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking. A. A. Milne

      by Memory Corrupted on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 08:24:51 AM PST

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      •  Not 100% true (1+ / 0-)
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        Certain types of skilled manufacturing certainly do. However as Foxconn shows us you can assemble hi-tech devices with a relatively cheap unskilled labor force with minimum training.

        Moreso once we get better Industrial robots and 3D printers. Eventually manufacturing will be 100% automated except for a niche market of handmade goods (just like we still have film buffs in the age of digital cameras) and for manufacturing state of the art prototypes prior to mass production.

        So to say that Manufacturing is significantly different than fast food work is a tad disingenuous. SOME manufacturing certainly is, but not all and the current trends are going to shrink that pool of work more and more over time. So it'd be more accurate to say that manufacturing is certainly headed for that same place regardless.

        Either way, the point of unionization is to prevent employers from exploiting the power balance they hold over their workers and using it to pursue socially destructive and otherwise exploitative behavior. When Walmart pays its workers so little they need food stamps just to eat that is socially destructive and costs us all money for instance. It makes both good moral AND economic sense to use organization to change the power balance in favor of walmart workers from management so that this can be rectified. Even if their workers don't have to pay for four years of school or know grep from grok.

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