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  •  Be careful what you wish for. (3+ / 0-)
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    My family belongs to the 98% who will suffer if a deal isn't reached. In fact, we might not be able to afford our mortgage, heating bill or daycare costs. That's the tough thing about living paycheck to paycheck... a seemingly small wave can have a lasting effect.

    If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

    by HairyTrueMan on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 01:07:01 PM PST

    •  tweet that to the White House (5+ / 0-)
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      TomP, FiredUpInCA, coral, 4Freedom, tikkun

      with the #my2k hash tag.  I think they'd be VERY interested in your story.

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      by billlaurelMD on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 01:53:58 PM PST

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    •  Heard that, but many more will suffer with a deal. (6+ / 0-)

      NO deal if it means cuts to benefits in Medicare,Medicaid.

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      by divineorder on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 02:15:38 PM PST

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      •  That's the thing. (5+ / 0-)

        Most deals offered by Boehner wwill cause greater pain for more people than the expiration of all tax cuts and the sequester.  In fact, the combination may make the debt ceiling less important, and it may be time for consituitionla options anyway.  We cannot let the House does not run the entire government through the deby ceiling.

        It's also important now to end the extortion.  Even minor reforms will be impossible so long as Boehner can extort the nation.  

        I'm glad Barack Obama is our President.

        by TomP on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 02:43:27 PM PST

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    •  Word is (6+ / 0-)

      that even if we run past Dec. 31, the IRS will take its sweet time in issuing new withholding tables -- until it knows what Congress is actually going to do -- so it doesn't have to do them twice, and may not have to do them at all. I expect the payroll tax will go back up to 6.2% on Jan. 1, but that the income tax withholding won't actually change until Congress comes to an agreement.

      So your family, and the millions like it, would not see a dramatic change in take-home pay right away. That's why the "fiscal cliff" language is way overblown. It's more like a gentle slope.

      •  For practical purposes the cutoff is end of 1Q (2+ / 0-)
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        4Freedom, tikkun

        That's when the first estimated tax payments are do...

        ...and I am guessing few of the non-1% are terribly worried about that sort of thing.

        And I said a FEW of the non-1%, not all...

      •  and even if... (0+ / 0-)

        even if we go over the cliff, and the IRS gets out the new withholding tables, its all fixable retroactively. There might be a couple weeks of higher withholding (which ought to be adjustable with your payroll department, if you need it to be), once they pass the Obama Tax Cuts they can lower withholding to compensate for any higher rates paid in January.

        And really, Republicans aren't going to let themselves get caught voting against a tax cut for 98% of Americans. Even they aren't that stupid.

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        by sixeight120bpm on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 07:29:21 PM PST

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    •  Not continuing the tax relief will cause (1+ / 0-)
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      pain.  Giving in to cuts in Social Security and Medicare could be even more catastrophic to you and your family.

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      by Sychotic1 on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 06:36:39 PM PST

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