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    •  Which also includes a moratorium (19+ / 0-)

      on expansion of illegal settlements, which has been rather ignored.  Of course, Bibi views a mostly symbolic step as being worse than any real negative action on the part of Israel.

      The revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

      by AoT on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 03:32:55 PM PST

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      •  Not ignored (0+ / 0-)

        There has not been a single new settlement started since Oslo. (A few that were already planned prior to Oslo were allowed to continue, but the most recent was 15 years ago.) The Settlement Enterprise basically failed, everyone knows it, and it is over.

      •  In response to the UN vote, settlements are built (2+ / 0-)
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        now. I think this is major news specifically because the U.S. has stated that this, they were not in support of this expansion and Obama himself opposed these settlements:

        JERUSALEM — As the United Nations General Assembly voted overwhelmingly to upgrade the Palestinians’ status Thursday night, Israel took steps toward building housing in a controversial area of East Jerusalem known as E1, where Jewish settlements have long been seen as the death knell for a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
        "death knell for a two-state solution." Repeat: "death knell for a two-state solution."

        To return to the NYT article, yes, it is retaliatory for this UN vote:

        A senior Israeli official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said on Friday that the decision was made late Thursday night to move forward on “preliminary zoning and planning preparations” for housing units in E1, which would connect the large settlement of Maale Adumim to Jerusalem and therefore make it impossible to connect the Palestinian cities of Ramallah and Bethlehem to Palestinian neighborhoods of East Jerusalem. Israel also authorized the construction of 3,000 housing units in other parts of East Jerusalem and the West Bank, the official said.


        In Washington, a State Department official criticized the move. “We reiterate our longstanding opposition to settlements and East Jerusalem construction,” he said. “We believe it is counterproductive and makes it harder to resume direct negotiations and achieve a two-state outcome.”


        So what now?

        This will completely end the two-state solution possibility.

        Also, the U.S. is not impressed or pleased with this.

        "Counsel woven into the fabric of real life is wisdom" - Walter Benjamin

        by mahakali overdrive on Fri Nov 30, 2012 at 10:28:45 AM PST

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        •  Israel is a colonizing state (4+ / 0-)

          and a two state solution was never seriously on the table.  Sure, the Palestinians were offered a "state" that they controlled internally somewhat and little to no foreign control with no military.  That's not a state, it's a protectorate.  The radical settler agenda has always been winning, despite claims otherwise from defenders of Israeli aggression.

          The revolution will not be televised. But it will be blogged, a lot. Probably more so than is necessary.

          by AoT on Fri Nov 30, 2012 at 01:08:54 PM PST

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    •  OK, I just read the Wikipedia entry on the Oslo (3+ / 0-)
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      Accords, and I see nothing in today's vote that violated them.

      The influence of the [executive] has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.

      by lysias on Thu Nov 29, 2012 at 03:50:58 PM PST

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