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  •  What exactly? (0+ / 0-)

    What exactly is "out of line"?

    That I dont want to see someone necked - which of course he was not.

    That on a personal level I would give him the option of being free from his troubles?

    Or that on a professional level I would ensure his safety - even tot he point of having people with no knowledge of the situation call me terrible things for doing so.

    You cant have it both ways.  Either Im evil for preventing him from killing himself or evil for enabling him.  

    Please be precise.  

    It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it. Robert E. Lee

    by ksuwildkat on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 01:02:07 PM PST

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    •  The suggestion of enabling (0+ / 0-)

      Is far over the line.  If military detention has created such mental conditions it is time to remove him from military custody

      Hay hombres que luchan un dia, y son buenos Hay otros que luchan un año, y son mejores Hay quienes luchan muchos años, y son muy buenos. Pero hay los que luchan toda la vida. Esos son los imprescendibles.

      by Mindful Nature on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 04:00:40 PM PST

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      •  In other words (0+ / 0-)

        you were just talking out of your butt and have no real basis for complaining.  

        PFC Manning was unhinged long before he was detained.  

        It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it. Robert E. Lee

        by ksuwildkat on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 06:48:13 PM PST

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        •  no (0+ / 0-)

          you suggested facilitating the suicide of a prisoner.  That is a grave breach.

          Hay hombres que luchan un dia, y son buenos Hay otros que luchan un año, y son mejores Hay quienes luchan muchos años, y son muy buenos. Pero hay los que luchan toda la vida. Esos son los imprescendibles.

          by Mindful Nature on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 06:56:36 PM PST

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          •  See (0+ / 0-)

            Now you are just displaying the emptiness of your arguments.

            First you say it is evil to take away the mens he himself suggested he could kill himself with then you say I am evil for suggesting I would provide him with more.

            And of course you take the position that suicide is evil contrary to most liberal thought.

            Empty

            It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it. Robert E. Lee

            by ksuwildkat on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 07:11:45 PM PST

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            •  I never said the former at all (0+ / 0-)

              I said that trying to get a prisoner to commit suicide shows an utter depravity

              Suicide isn't evil.  Trying to get someone under your power to commit suicide  is

              Hay hombres que luchan un dia, y son buenos Hay otros que luchan un año, y son mejores Hay quienes luchan muchos años, y son muy buenos. Pero hay los que luchan toda la vida. Esos son los imprescendibles.

              by Mindful Nature on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 08:15:30 PM PST

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