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  •  National ID Card? (4+ / 0-)

    The elephant in the room (no pun intended) on this particular question is some sort of national ID card.  While I have significant reservations -- from a civil liberties perspective -- about adopting such an approach, it works well in many countries that we all consider 'free' and 'democratic' and such.  There's no such thing as 'voter registration'; you show up at the polls and vote, showing your national ID card, which demonstrates that you're a citizen -- and all citizens have a right to vote.  There are, of course, all sorts of other issues at play (relating, not least, to immigration).  But very few Europeans with whom I've worked can comprehend the notion that Americans have to 'register' to vote.  

    •  It use to be, could still be, that people would (4+ / 0-)

      say that a national ID would simply be a way for the Feds to know all about you when they came to take over. I'd say, the cat's out of the bag on that one. For all I know, even commercial America knows more about me than I do.
      Hell, yes there should be a national ID for the purpose of voting. I see no reason why the immigration issues could not be worked out. I see no reason why all issues could not be worked out.
      Progress is always tedious, so, the sooner we get started on this, the better.

      Vote suppression = vote theft.

      Fuck Big Brother...from now on, WE'RE watching.

      by franklyn on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 08:41:38 AM PST

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      •  Can you say you're sombedoy? (0+ / 0-)

        If the Tea Party was true to its rhetoric, they'd be asking, "Can you say you're somebody without a government card saying you're somebody?

        But "If the Tea Party was true to its rhetoric" is a hypothetical on the order of "If we pissed gold."

        The furor over Friday's [10.5] job report revealed a political movement that is rooting for American failure, so obsessed with taking down Obama that good news drives its members into a blind rage. -Paul Krugman

        by Judge Moonbox on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 05:17:08 PM PST

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    •  we register to vote here in the UK (3+ / 0-)

      and it is updated about once a year - we have to be ready for a general election on less than a month's notice, you see.

      BUT we do not have to register as one party or another, and we can't; just 'I am person name of X and over 18 and live at this address'.

      We don't prove anything when we vote - just turn up at the right place (we get a card throught the post that tells you where) and do the deed.  Or vote by post.

      National ID cards were proposed recently and were massively unpopular - and the destruction of the discs (with the info to date on) made front page news......

    •  More Like a National Voter Registration Card (2+ / 0-)
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      Simplify, a2nite

      I'm not in favor of a national ID, but I think the federal government should issue a voter registration card to everyone who has voted in a previous national election. This would be automatic (based on voting records where people already sign in to vote) and states would be required to accept them as proof of eligibility for national elections.

      See here for more details.

      This would eliminate the voter roll purges that have been going on without creating a huge expense for poor people or complications for people that don't have driver's licenses or birth certificates. It grandfathers in everyone who's been voting, so that you don't have millions of people in limbo casting provisional ballots, even though they may have been voting in elections for the past 80 years.

    •  National ID would solve multiple issues... (0+ / 0-)

      Not only could it be used to address (and scuttle) attempts by Republicans to enact harsh voter restrictions at the state level, but it could also be used as ID for employment purposes, which would address concerns on both the left and right about companies hiring illegal immigrants.

      In other words, national ID could be used to preempt state voter registration restrictions and it would also allow cracking down on employers who hire illegal immigrants by taking away the excuse that there is currently no secure ID that allows employers to easily confirm the status of a prospective employee.

      The catch, of course, is that national ID is controversial on both the left and the right -- on the left are concerns with civil rights and privacy, and on the right are concerns about black helicopters or something like that.

      Nonetheless, at some point it's an option that we are going to need to take a serious look at.

      Political Compass: -6.75, -3.08

      by TexasTom on Sat Dec 01, 2012 at 02:28:26 PM PST

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