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  •  When climate starts impacting the bottom line (6+ / 0-)

    it's suddenly serious business. Of course if they'd been a bit more prescient, they would have seen this trend years ago and put pressure on Congress to act.

    And it's only going to get worse. Even if they have a come-to-Jesus moment, it's going to take a long time to reverse the trends.

    "The human eye is a wonderful device. With a little effort, it can fail to see even the most glaring injustice." Richard K. Morgan

    by sceptical observer on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 07:57:34 AM PST

    •  better late than never. (4+ / 0-)


      Of course, that's why us "environmental advocates"

      have been jumping up and down, for many years now.


      On the off chance, that Business and Congress, may one day sit up, and take notice

      And DO Something. To lessen the damage, already in progress.


      Thanks sceptical observer


      Isn't it time to fix the Filibuster?
      -- Here's how.

      by jamess on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 08:10:11 AM PST

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      •  This isn't just a "big business" problem (2+ / 0-)
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        You can't frame this as "big corporations versus everyone else" because it's simply wrong.

        Go tell 150 million suburbanites that they are going to have to give up most of their cars and live in big cities. And take a 10-20% pay cut. See what the response is.

        All economic activity right now involves fossil fuels except for some very limited exceptions. Advocating using less fossil fuels  is tantamount to advocating less economic activity at the present time.

        Should we be pushing alternatives? Absolutely. But the battle lines are a lot more muddy than most people would accept.

        (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
        Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

        by Sparhawk on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 03:27:22 PM PST

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        •  I can't just (4+ / 0-)
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          go out and build my own High Capacity power grid,

          or my own wind farm or solar farm, to light a city.


          There are some things society has to do in common,

          for the betterment of those who will follow.


          For example, if we had waited for individuals to build the the intrastate highway system, we'd still be waiting most likely.  


          There are just some things we have to do as a country.
          Businesses should do their part too, in our "nation building at home,"
          seeing as they benefit too, in the long run from any nationwide systems we all build as a country, together.


          Isn't it time to fix the Filibuster?
          -- Here's how.

          by jamess on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 03:41:26 PM PST

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    •  It's not sudden. (7+ / 0-)

      There have been papers and conferences on this for years.

      Just because folks outside of the insurance industry  (laypeople) aren't aware of these things aren't going on doesn't mean they're not going on.

      Even without going behind industry site paywalls, a simple google search reveals lots of activity that has been in the works for a long time.

      I'm not an apologist for the insurance industry. There is lots that it does very poorly. And much that it does that is wrong. But I also believe in giving credit where it's due.

      © grover


      So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

      by grover on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 08:49:17 AM PST

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      •  I agree. (4+ / 0-)

        I wasn't referring to the insurance industry but, re-reading it, it does sound like that. I was referring to corporations in general. When the bottom line gets hurt they notice—but as long as they don't pay a price...

        "The human eye is a wonderful device. With a little effort, it can fail to see even the most glaring injustice." Richard K. Morgan

        by sceptical observer on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 09:00:38 AM PST

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