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  •  I'm just trying to point out that (1+ / 0-)
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    the "who are the indiginous people" argument is complex when we talk about Israel. As it is in many other places throughout the world.

    •  It's complex everywhere! (3+ / 0-)
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      Who were the indigenous people of the American Southwest?  Well, the Navojos and Apaches (among others) were there when the first Europeans arrived, but they had arrived relatively recently, displacing others.  The Aztecs were also relatively recent arrivals in the area of what is now Mexico City, and the Dakota were relatively recent arrivals in much of the northern plains.

      And it's not just in Israel/Palestine and North America that the question is a complicated one, either.  The Angles, Saxons, and Jutes didn't displace the native Celts in today's England until the time of the Roman Empire, so are the English really the indigenous people of England?

      I'm just not impressed with the argument that "God gave it to my ancestors thousands of years ago," especially when other people and their ancestors have been living there for centuries.  The Israelis aren't going to disappear, and neither are the Palestinians, and either the settlements will be pulled back sufficiently to allow the Palestinians to have a viable state, or Israel will cease to be a Jewish state, or there will be horrendous ethnic cleansing of one group or the other.  I really see no other possibility, and anything (by either side) that tends to make the first alternative more difficult is seriously problematic.

      Bin Laden is dead. GM and Chrysler are alive.

      by leevank on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 08:53:38 AM PST

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