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  •  Then why the "tough choices" talk? Why the (4+ / 0-)
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    "shared sacrifice" talk?  If it's all good and about efficiencies, why aren't they saying that?  

    "The Global War on Terror is a justification for U.S. Imperialism. It must be stopped."

    by BigAlinWashSt on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 08:32:09 AM PST

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    •  that's the perfect language because Republicans (2+ / 0-)
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      are saying they're requiring that. So cuts to Medicare that don't affect benefits shouldn't be portrayed as easy-peasy because they're not. The Dems are giving something in this battle by proposing those cuts. The fact that the White House is protecting benefits doesn't mean that it isn't shared sacrifice: some of the providers will be getting less, hospitals will have to refocus their whole billing approach and rethink how they handle discharging patients and then readmitting them when they (predictably) have problems recovering at home, wealthier seniors will have to pay higher premiums. These are not insignificant changes.

      We're not perfect, but they're nuts! -- Barney Frank

      by Tamar on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 12:45:28 PM PST

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      •  I just used this on my doctor.. (2+ / 0-)
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        recent hospital; stay was so different about discharge than 8 years ago, when I left with security escorting me after yelling at the discharge harridan who was booting me with open woulds and infections..this time there was a ream of paperwork on if and how to complain if I thought I was being discharged too soon...and m,y doctor for both recent stays had said I could go home 'when I felt like it'...I haven't got the bills yet, so....but it looks like the hospital has got the message and is already complying with ACA and working on their stats...I suggested to my great doc their stats would suffer if the new surgical wound reanimated and infected and I was back in a few days as happened after the screamout 8 years ago.

        This machine kills Fascists.

        by KenBee on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 03:46:47 PM PST

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        •  My father was discharged very quickly after (1+ / 0-)
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          prostate surgery (this was about 25 years ago) and ran into problems -- he had only my elderly mother to help him. He didn't have to be readmitted, but it was a close call. And lots of people do end up being readmitted. Hospitals were paid based on an average length of stay -- so if they could discharge patients short of that average, they benefited financially. A readmission was just fine with them because it starts a whole new length of stay based on a different condition (e.g., wound infection). Kicking you out too soon, and elderly patients like my father was all based on bottom line thinking, not patient-centered care.

          We're not perfect, but they're nuts! -- Barney Frank

          by Tamar on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 06:06:15 PM PST

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