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  •  Bob Costas' halftime Commentary nails it (17+ / 0-)

    http://www.rawstory.com/...

    quoting from Jason Winlock

    http://msn.foxsports.com/...

    Our current gun culture simply ensures that more and more domestic disputes will end in the ultimate tragedy, and that more convenience-store confrontations over loud music coming from a car will leave more teenage boys bloodied and dead.

    In the coming days, Belcher’s actions will be analyzed through the lens of concussions and head injuries. Who knows? Maybe brain damage triggered his violent overreaction to a fight with his girlfriend. What I believe is, if he didn’t possess/own a gun, he and Kasandra Perkins would both be alive today.

    If cats could blog, they wouldn't

    by crystal eyes on Mon Dec 03, 2012 at 07:03:25 AM PST

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    •  nonsense (7+ / 0-)

      In the country of my birth, guns were not prohibited, nor were they immensely popular.

      This kind of thing still played out routinely. I remember one particular incident where the wife beat the husband to death with a large metal fireplace-poker, and some others where steak-knife stabbing frenzy was the chosen method.

      Er, fuck guns, BTW. I don't give a shit one way or another, but as long as it's a knee-jerk to treat guns as a significant factor (or steak-knives or pokers) we miss the point.

      The point is "blah-blah-blah and there was violent murder". and "now, how do we address the norms that drive people to violent murder?"

      Costas offers this drivel

      What I believe is, if he didn’t possess/own a gun, he and Kasandra Perkins would both be alive today.
      without any motivation.

      What? A mega-athlete who could probably kill 99% of people on earth with his bare hands needs a gun to kill his wife? WTF? This passes for logical commentary? It's idiotic

    •  Costas is 100% wrong (0+ / 0-)

      Costas makes the same error that all the gun banners do. That the gun got angry and killed. That murder is impossible without a gun. That domestic violence is impossible without a gun. And that if we just banned those evil guns, that violence would just end.

      Costas sends the message that we really don't need to do anything about violence if we just banned guns. Bullshit. All that will do is change the murder weapon used, nothing more.

      The issue is the violence, not the weapon.  Focus on the root cause instead of living in fantasy land, like there weren't knives and baseball bats in the house.

      •  I'm not going to belabor this aspect of it (3+ / 0-)
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        but this meme of 'guns don't kill people, people do' is just skirting the issue IMHO.

        The whole purpose of handguns is basically to kill people.  That's why they are manufactured, essentially.  

        We can't keep ignoring the obvious.  

        Costas' opinion is just that -- his opinion.  I'm sure that it will be heavily debated in the coming days and weeks.

        But the bottom line here is that a high profile person, for whatever reasons, couldn't find another way to resolve his problems.  

        Yet he's remembered in some circles as this 'great' person with no problems who politely thanked his coach before blowing his head off and his girlfriend and daughter are footnotes.

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