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  •  It's not awkward (5+ / 0-)
    Ryan’s statement illustrates why negotiating with Republicans about fiscal matters is so awkward.
    It's a waste of time.  
    •  I cannot disagree and I've said the same thing, (7+ / 0-)

      too.  I even thought it was pointless to debate during the campaign except for the sake of convention and expectations.  Why did I use the word awkward?  I didn't say what I was thinking:  cons attack and criticize but they don't do defense.  It's always the same one note disparaging others so that they hardly say anything about the constructive alternative they have to offer.  If they complain so bitterly they should have a plan that will produce the satisfactory result they say they're not getting. But it's as if they have nothing to offer and all the fuss they make is pointless.  What they stand for is so unappealing that they try to get by saying the least about it. I don't think I've ever seen a political party as absurd as this anywhere in my entire life.

      "Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln

      by leftreborn on Sun Dec 02, 2012 at 11:22:24 PM PST

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      •  I've never seen anything like this either (1+ / 0-)
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        The GOP is a political party completely devoid of ideas other than discredited ones.  How can you possibly negotiate with a party who's fanaticism about tax cuts has not resulted in jobs and for 30 years.  Yet the Republicans soldier on if this is the heyday of the Reagan administration and "supply side" economics is all new and different.  

        Let's not even mention the death wish the GOP must have to continue to rely on the every shrinking "southern strategy" demographic.  

        The definition of insanity is doing to same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome.  Watching the GOP in action leads to only 1 conclusion:  The GOP is insane.  

      •  "...cons attack and criticize but they don't do (2+ / 0-)
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        defense."  That phrase should be tattooed on our foreheads.  I've found it to be the case over and over again, and it's because their positions are basically indefensible.  Bluster and innuendo are their only weapons, and when they run out of Limbaugh-speak, they slither under a rock.

        Brilliant diary by the way.

      •  It's all about the hostages you can take. (1+ / 0-)
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        reason is for losers.

        There are some things that are unforgivable. Your willingness to play political games while people suffer and die is one of them--Onomastic

        by SouthernLiberalinMD on Mon Dec 03, 2012 at 07:11:34 AM PST

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    •  Too bad Obama and the centrists don't agree. n/t (0+ / 0-)

      There are some things that are unforgivable. Your willingness to play political games while people suffer and die is one of them--Onomastic

      by SouthernLiberalinMD on Mon Dec 03, 2012 at 07:11:01 AM PST

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