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  •  Meh. This is overblown. (7+ / 0-)

    As of the most recent episode, we are talking about a show with fewer than a dozen major characters, and three of them are now black (Michonne, Tyreese, and his sister Sasha).   And all of these characters are strong and are "good guys."  

    Why no discussion about how the only Latino character to show up in the last two seasons was a criminal thug who took a machete to the head after only 30 minutes of screen time?

    And why only one Asian?

    And I'm a bit disappointed by the absence of orthodox Jews.

    It's a TV show people, not a census.

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    by bigtimecynic on Tue Dec 04, 2012 at 06:27:45 AM PST

    •  Actually, as I pointed out in a comment above, (3+ / 0-)
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      the census actually make sense in the only one Asian context.  Not many Asians in Georgia to start with.  

      The population is also finally starting to balance out a bit in African American proportions as well.  Georgia is 30% AA, and, as you point out, the group is finally starting to reflect this.

      In the unlikely story that is America, there has never been anything false about hope.

      by Cixelsyd on Tue Dec 04, 2012 at 08:23:36 AM PST

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    •  Sure, it may be overblown. (0+ / 0-)

      But that doesn't mean it's valueless as a thought exercise, and chauncey is analyzing it from a particular literary viewpoint.  

      As Freud said, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.  But if you aren't willing to do the analysis, how will you know when it is and when it's not?  I remember an AP English project in high school where we had to analyze "The Turn of The Screw" from a Freudian/Oedipal perspective, including the sexual connotations of the title.  Talk about overblown!  But the lesson was also about the over-use of Freudian analysis in literature and society, which is actually a very valuable lesson.  Many of the "cure the gays" therapies and theories originated based on so-called Freudian analysis/theories, particularly in the fifties, when male homosexuality was often explained as an over-identification of the boy with his mother (giving a whole other connotation to "momma's boy,"), leading to later homosexuality -- hence the "cure" was to engage in more manly activities and repress emotional expressions, because they were too "feminine."    

      In the same vein, just because chauncey's analysis doesn't explain everything in one tidy package doesn't mean it's devoid of meaning or value.  

      We are the first to look up and know, with absolute certainty, that the sword we ourselves have forged, is real.

      by Jbearlaw on Tue Dec 04, 2012 at 09:16:06 AM PST

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      •  i find the level of engaged rejection (0+ / 0-)

        by folks who are not even willing to consider the claim, are not trained in this type of analysis, and are just knee jerk racism deniers to be the most instructive part of the exercise. racism and other types of inequalities of power reveal themselves by how people are invested in them...even it means coming up with all sorts of absurd explanations for the obvious, i.e. the role of gender and race in the walking dead.

        they do not accept the realities of white supremacy and sexism. thus, they cannot accept that such reality is evident in something they enjoy as in a tv show or film. really classic projection and why popular culture matters in terms of symbolic power.

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