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  •  can you even define what racism is? (0+ / 0-)

    I think not.

    If you understood what racism was, you would know that it is a recent invention of the 16th or perhaps even 15th century. Sure, people hated, killed, were bigoted, and prejudiced. We are not that kind as human being. But racism as the social-scientific-philosophical-moral-economic system that it is, is a very very recent a product of modernity.

    You need to do some basic work before you can engage in a mature conversation on this topic. I gave you some reading suggestions because I am not going to do the work for you. Clearly, you have some basic misunderstanding about history. Another suggestion would be the great, short, and very accessible book Racism: A History.

    "Equality, colorblindness. That's the goal. "

    This is just priceless. I do not even think you read what I wrote. You are very reactionary and knee jerk in your defense of conservative colorblindness. Why is that? What is your investment in such childish and flat thinking about the real nature of racism and white supremacy in the West? Am I hitting too close to home?

    You still haven't explained what the heck a European Indigenous Person is? What is this fiction that you have created? Is that some new term among the white race realist white people are oppressed crowd?

    •  I'm the mature one here and you're just flailing. (0+ / 0-)

      The curse of Ham, as previously mentioned and ignored like everything else I say that you have no good answer to, is used as the justification for the subjugation of the Canaanites. That they were cursed with blackness and live to be servants thusly. You are not the arbiter of what get to be included as racism. Not that it makes any real difference but you are, in fact, wrong on this point. You seem to be making an effort to be entirely wrong on every point. Kudos for being very thorough.

      I gave you some reading suggestions because I am not going to do the work for you.
      You're losing even more people with that attempt. LOL. "I could totally destroy your argument. I just don't want to! READ A BOOK!" You are sounding more and more right wing tea party all the time.
      What is your investment in such childish and flat thinking about the real nature of racism and white supremacy in the West? Am I hitting too close to home?
      It's not childish to have the goal of total equality. What's childish and flat is to unintentionally ironically state that racism is in itself a trait of only one race. If you were hitting close to home on white supremacy, I'd be living a life of luxury. You're just being nonsensical at this point. It just kills you that you:

      a) Know nothing of my culture, which is actually entirely separable from the American WASP machine you're really raging agianst.

      b) You're being put in your place on matters of race because you see racism in a bowl of Spaghettios. Your skin color has nothing to do with your ability to be a malignant and completely racist person. You prove that.

      You still haven't explained what the heck a European Indigenous Person is? What is this fiction that you have created? Is that some new term among the white race realist white people are oppressed crowd?
      Read a book. Oh wait, read wikipedia for a primer:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/...

      I'm enjoying the fact that you are so foamy at the mouth over something that has been established very clearly. You revel in your ignorance and it's just another aspect of your racism. You're all too happy to be entirely insulting about a matter of someone's heritage when it isn't your own.

      I'm sitting here laughing at you. Others are sitting here laughing at you. Of all the legitimate issues you could have hitched your boat to, you chose none of them. You picked a zombie show on AMC. And you've been making a fool of yourself ever since.

      •  i think you are 12 or maybe 13 (0+ / 0-)

        you have not "destroyed anything." you are content to remain ignorant and proudly proclaim that you are not willing to do any work.

        the very same book i mentioned to you would explain the roots of modern racism in anti-semitism. again, you don't want to read so you would not know that.

        please don't bring up silly Wikipedia as a definitive source on this or other matters. when you write your papers in college or high school please do not cite it either. spare your instructors a laugh.

        a fool? by truth telling. nah. answer some basic questions without the name calling. i like chatting with you; it is good sport, fun, and doesn't take much effort.

        do share some more about this ethnic identity you discovered for yourself on wikipedia and how it has any social meaning in terms of power, resources, or the like in the United States.

        •  You're losing. Best not to say it's to a 12 yr old (0+ / 0-)

          lol

          you have not "destroyed anything." you are content to remain ignorant and proudly proclaim that you are not willing to do any work.
          You can live in your own dream world. The vast majority of comments here are telling you not to see racism in your morning toast.
          the very same book i mentioned to you would explain the roots of modern racism in anti-semitism. again, you don't want to read so you would not know that.
          If you can't distill that book, that's your problem. Telling someone to read books isn't a valid debate tactic. Whatever little you have distilled, I have debunked.
          please don't bring up silly Wikipedia as a definitive source on this or other matters. when you write your papers in college or high school please do not cite it either. spare your instructors a laugh.
          This isn't a paper and considering you didn't have any clue that such things existed, you don't get to taunt Wikipedia. What a desperate angle.
          a fool? by truth telling. nah. answer some basic questions without the name calling. i like chatting with you; it is good sport, fun, and doesn't take much effort.
          Your opinion isn't truth. You're a fool if you can't make the distinction. You've been reduced to just bravado, babble, and right wing ideology.
          do share some more about this ethnic identity you discovered for yourself on wikipedia and how it has any social meaning in terms of power, resources, or the like in the United States.
          Again mocking  my identity. You know why I let you get away with it? I know you personality type. I've seen your personality type before. You're the timid non-confrontational guy who tries to act big online. You can either show respect or you can have me continue to erode your own credibility.

          You didn't even know my indigenous people existed. Now that you do you belittle it, write it off, and claim it gives me world domination powers. You are everything that you claim to revile. You are not a progressive. And I'm far from the only one here that has noted how nutty your ideology is.

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