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  •  Possibly true, but (2+ / 0-)
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    The easy response to "it's bipartisan!" is "oh yeah? if it's so bipartisan, why is no one from my party voting for it?"

    Let's not forget that the health insurance mandate/exchange regime was originally a Republican proposal, but that didn't stop Republicans from decrying it as "Socialism" and voting against it en masse.

    •  This is a proposal from a Democrat, specifically (1+ / 0-)
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      the Democrat appointed by this Democratic President to chair this President's fiscal commission.  

      And that's how all the news outlets are reporting it -- as adopting the Bowles compromise from his testimony on November 1, 2011, probably just as the Republicans intended.  See here and here and here and here.

      It will be hard for the President to disavow it as "not serious" without disavowing both Bowles and the President's deficit commission.  

      The Republicans apparently choose what may end up being a pretty savvy political move over sticking to Grover Norquist doctrine.

      •  Actually, it's a proposal that didn't make it (0+ / 0-)

        out of committee, other proposals were on the same committee table. Bowles took it upon himself to present a proposal of his own making.
        People are getting very acquainted with Mr. Bowles and his Wall Street propaganda machine, Fix the Debt. So I strongly disagree, this will not be viewed by the people as a Democratic proposal. It is not, nor has it ever been endorsed by a committee of congress or any Democratic party affiliate or by President Obama.

        "Lets show the rascals what Citizens United really means."

        by smiley7 on Mon Dec 03, 2012 at 02:01:39 PM PST

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        •  That is exactly how people here view things (1+ / 0-)
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          they have rejected Bowles long ago.  And they think Fix the Debt has no credibility, just as you said.  If when you say "people," you mean people here, you are absolutely right.

          But the President has never adopted this site's disdain for Bowles and what he is trying to do.  The President has never adopted the view of this site that the S-B Commission was, as people here call them, the "Cat Food Commission."  The question is whether he will do so now.

      •  The WH just disavowed it! (0+ / 0-)

        "Lets show the rascals what Citizens United really means."

        by smiley7 on Mon Dec 03, 2012 at 02:25:22 PM PST

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    •  Steve - there are Dems who support Bowles plan (0+ / 0-)

      and would vote for it.

      "let's talk about that"

      by VClib on Mon Dec 03, 2012 at 03:33:06 PM PST

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