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  •  "Somebody" isn't going to appear out of thin air (0+ / 0-)
    Somebody who brings a fresh message could outflank her easily.
    Who?

    Cuomo? Warner? O'Malley? Schweitzer? Warren? Patrick?

    We aren't talking about a race 8 years from now, where an unknown could potentially rise. We are talking about a race that will formally begin in 2 and a half years time. Everyone who is a potential candidate is already on the radar screen.

    It's not a question of somebody, but who?

    I don't see any potential Democratic candidates who could beat Hillary Clinton, should she run for the nomination again.

    It took a candidate of immense skill and charisma to beat her the last time. There are no Obama's on the field this time.

    •  Definitely not Cuomo. (1+ / 0-)
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      Egalitare

      Basically its O'Malley or Schweitzer. I don't think we've seen enough of either to be able to make any firm conclusions about how potent they would be out there.

      At the same time, if Clinton's message is stale and boring centrist pablum, then whoever is able to go out and generate the passion would get some earned media, some buzz, and some money.

      Remember, the Democratic Party isn't the Republican Party. We ENJOY fighting with each other.

      •  I'm from Maryland (2+ / 0-)
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        I've voted for O'Malley twice for Governor.

        He doesn't even generate excitement here in Maryland. I am profoundly grateful he got the marriage equality legislation passed this year. But he is not going to set the campaign trail on fire. He doesn't have the political skills, charisma, or financial backing to knock off Clinton.

        If you want an idea of O'Malley's prospects, you need look no further than a recent Washington Post Poll. It found only 22% of Maryland voters think O'Malley would make a good President. 66% think he would not. In a heavily Democratic state like ours, that means even a lot of Democrats here don't support an O'Malley run for President. Those are very weak numbers.

        I know less of Schweitzer, but I have doubts he can appeal to the urban base of the Democratic Party. His quirky personality works in a retail politics state like Montana. But I don't think he is polished enough for the national spotlight, where campaigning is conducted through sound bites.

      •  Omalley and Schweitzer will be run over by Clinton (1+ / 0-)
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        I mean full on massacre....

        Clinton basically played the good soldier.  As did Bill.  She will be rewarded.  And with so much focus on women last cycle, there isn't a chance that gender doesn't rise to be the single major coalition that triumphs.

        She has a few vulnerabilities, but not by any stretch imagination anything unmanageable.   And she will have Obama's backing.  This isn't an open race.  It is a someone with a huge lead and others trying to catch up with very little time on the clock.  I truly think this could be over before it starts.

        "Small Businesses Don't Build Levees" - Melissa Harris Perry

        by justmy2 on Wed Dec 05, 2012 at 06:45:06 AM PST

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      •  Actually...here is the one person that could (0+ / 0-)

        possibly beat Hillary...

        Michelle Obama....

        And boy...would I pay money literally just to see that knock down drag out fight for the heart of the Democratic party...

        Now I would never want to see it from political standpoint...it would be purely divisive and bad for progressives...BUT...the literally Ali/Frazier entertainment could be the greatest political battle in history...

        Will never happen...but it would literally be like two kingdoms battling for the heart of a empire...

        "Small Businesses Don't Build Levees" - Melissa Harris Perry

        by justmy2 on Wed Dec 05, 2012 at 07:52:55 AM PST

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