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  •  It's Texas (4+ / 0-)

    The turd stain on the underpants of America

    •  Democrats in Texas object to that kind of talk. (14+ / 0-)

      The justice system is horrible here. No question.  The Attorney General is a clown and the governor is a brain-dead jerk.

      But there are decent people here.  So, you know, try to consider that.

      "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

      by YucatanMan on Tue Dec 04, 2012 at 10:45:24 PM PST

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      •  This. (4+ / 0-)
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        © grover


        So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

        by grover on Tue Dec 04, 2012 at 11:14:50 PM PST

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      •  The problem I have with Texas (6+ / 0-)

        Is two fold:

        1. The arrogance so often exhibited by Texans about their "wonderful" state/republic.

        2. The horrible, terrible things that come from or occur in that state, of which the subject of this diary is but one example.

        I'm not a big fan of any state.  I've moved countless times in my life and have lived in several states, all of which have problems.  But Texas is so uniquely terrible. And the dissonance between the tiresome Texas boosterism and the sad, tragic reality of that state is unequaled, in my opinion.

        The only state with more ardent and unquestioning boosters than Texas, in my experience, is Utah.

        And even Utah, with its Mormon-dominated culture, isn't as bad (in my opinion) as the citizens of Texas have allowed their state to become.

        I know there are decent people in Texas. I love and respect one of them very much, but he is tied to his family, his family demands he live there, and his love for them cements the deal.

        I feel sorry for him and other Texas residents. I hope their lot improves. And I expect, in time, it will; as demography finally overcomes the deeply-embedded and recalcitrant stupidity.

        Perhaps then that state can embark on a better course.

        •  Utah's a paradox (2+ / 0-)
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          At least along the Wasatch front area around Salt Lake City where 85%+ of Utah's population is concentrated, Utah is a surprisingly pleasant place for non-Mormons and even progressives to live, in part because the Mormon share of the population is diluted to only around 50% in the SLC/Park City area.  NEVERTHELESS, Utah's general deep-red GOP-dominated political leanings that show up on national radar are mixed with surprisingly progressive nuts-and-bolts pragmatism on a local level.  For but one example, despite national GOP hostility to mass transit, Salt Lake City has one of the best bus and light rail systems in the country, and is just completing a new light rail line from downtown out to the airport.  The unmatched outdoor recreational opportunities and physical beauty of the setting have drawn a large community of hippies, rock-climbers, hard-core skiers, and other outdoor adventuring people to live in Utah, and they pretty much get left alone by the local LDS community.  Another oddity: SLC has more homeless people and drifters hanging on around the metro area, in part because of the Mormon Church's relatively supportive attitude toward helping people in need.  I tell you, Salt Lake City is a strange place in many ways, not what outsiders who haven't spent more than superficial time there on a ski trip to Park City or only know it second-hand from media accounts.

        •  Stereotyping, scapegoating, reasoning from (1+ / 0-)
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          specific to general, etc, etc, etc.

          Every state has horrible things.  Remember "wilding?"  The Central Park jogger who was raped and horribly beaten?

          New York City, you know, right?  A blue city in a blue county in a blue state, right?

          Five young men - teens at the time - were sentenced to prison for that rape.   None of them were involved. There was zero physical evidence of them being involved.  They were forced into confessions and/or convicted and served their full sentences.

          Oops.  Turns out another convicted murderer and rapist did it.  His DNA was found in the preserved evidence after he discussed doing it.

          So, do we condemn all of NYC / NY State for this travesty of justice?  Is it a horrible thing?  Sure it is. Awful. Five young lives were completely ruined.

          How could the good people of NYC have permitted this to happen?  

          All the commenters demanding the good people of Texas to stop these bad things from happening -- please explain how the good people of NY didn't stop this injustice from occurring there?  

          Regardless of whatever state you are in, Ernest T Bass, there are awful things being done there too.

          Most of your comment is filled with rank stereotyping: taking the behavior of a few and applying it to all.   People notice the fool-hardy loud-mouths.  They don't notice all the quiet decent people not making waves.

          "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

          by YucatanMan on Wed Dec 05, 2012 at 09:00:53 AM PST

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      •  "consider that"..... DECENT people don't allow (2+ / 0-)
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        this level of injustice to continue un-challenged. Decent people are not indifferent to the suffering and struggles of others, especially the mentally challenged and handicapped. Decent people don't continue to allow the inmates to run the asylum. Decent people don't scream to high heaven about Patriotism and then turn around and want to secede from the Union because they didn't win an election.
        Decent people, what few may be left, need to start speaking up about all the injustice, and inane childish actions and stop enabling Teh StUpid to be the status quo.
        I've been stuck in Texas since '08 taking care of my mom who won't leave, and I've observed more of a descent of the population rather than the decent. It's infuriating.

        Goodbye American Dream.... http://youtu.be/ZkTIEeGX6q0

        by Fireshadow on Wed Dec 05, 2012 at 06:59:46 AM PST

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        •  What someone wants to allow, in a democracy, isn't (0+ / 0-)

          up to that one person or a minority of the voters to decide.

          We can fund good Democrats. We can work for change locally.  And by the way, we've had lots of success at that in the cities:

          Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, El Paso, Austin all are blue cities and counties.   Houston has an openly lesbian mayor.  Dallas County has an openly lesbian Latina Sheriff.   That's pretty blue.  That's pretty far from the Republican standard fare of hate and bigotry.

          The Black Dallas District Attorney has released more unjustly convicted people from prison than any other place in the country that I am aware of.  And it is not because Texas convicts innocent people so out of proportion to any place else.   How could he do this?

          Because Dallas County happens to preserve evidence from cases much longer than many jurisdictions across the nation, it was possible to test DNA and determine people were wrongly convicted.  

          While many places across the nation have DA's who refuse to test old evidence or fight the admission of innocene-proving evidence, Dallas has a DA who goes out of his way to insure past convictions were just.

          Your "decent people" comment applies equally to you:  since you are a decent person, why don't you just march over to that prison and get the guy released?  Oh.  You cannot do that.  

          Well, why didn't you elect a different governor?  Oh.  You voted for someone else and lost?  Sorry.  So did I.

          Stereotyping and scapegoating is not the answer.  Especially your allies and friends.  

          "Texas" is not evil, but the people holding statewide power certainly are.   If we keep working to expand the Blue from the big cities outward, we'll see change.

          But do not condemn good people for the actions of bad people.

          "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

          by YucatanMan on Wed Dec 05, 2012 at 08:53:23 AM PST

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