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  •  They aren't breaking the rules (5+ / 0-)

    to change the rules.  The rules say they can do it on the first day.  It's a rule.

    Protecting minority rights??  Yeah, the GOP is an expert on constitutional minority rights....

    The constitution does not govern the operation of the senate.

    They will still be able to filibuster, they just have to work harder to do it.  Hell, they have to work.  Kind of hard to maintain a filibuster when you're not even in session for 2/3 of the year.

    Does anything but bullshit ever leave Boehner's mouth??  Or any Republican??  I'm so sick and tired of these people...

    "Mediocrity cannot know excellence." -- Sherlock Holmes

    by La Gitane on Wed Dec 05, 2012 at 11:30:06 AM PST

    •  The rules don't have to say that (5+ / 0-)

      because the Constitution says nothing about it. The idea that the Senate is a "continuing institution" or whatever is a legal fiction. When you elect new people, you get new rules. On the first day of a new Congress, the Senate rules are a blank slate. After that, they do have to abide by rules they have passed for the remainder of that Congress.

      •  It's mostly governed by tradition. (1+ / 0-)
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        La Gitane

        Generally, they tend to start with a framework of rules from the previous senate session.  Add, subtract or modify rules from that base.  It's not really a 'from scratch' proposition.

        Although it would be interesting if they threw out everything and made up a completely random set of rules.  If so, I would suggest they do something like this.  (Maybe it would make everyone a bit more civil?)

        Hell, it's been a tradition to make the chairperson of a committee one of the people assigned to the committee, but that's apparently been broken now.

        Longstanding institutions, whether governmental, educational, religious or private tend to contain traditions that are preserved for immense spans of the organization's existence.

        •  There is no "tradition" in the Constitution (0+ / 0-)

          We're not England; our Constitution is written down in ink, not hidden in conventions.

          Agreement to rules by the members of a body binds only that body. When the membership changes, anything that is not in the constitution or a law is exactly that — it's not a law.

    •  Minority rights, huh? (1+ / 0-)
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      La Gitane

      The inalienable right to impose your will on everyone else by obstructing at every turn. The inalienable right engage in institutionalized passive-aggressive behavior, which is what the filibuster as it's currently practiced is.

      liberal bias = failure to validate or sufficiently flatter the conservative narrative on any given subject

      by RockyMtnLib on Wed Dec 05, 2012 at 06:13:50 PM PST

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