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  •  Ray McGovern's also a 9/11 truther (2+ / 0-)
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    FloraLine, Roger Fox

    there was a shit diary about this the other day -- similar arguments to this, but also lambasting her for not intervening in Rwanda.

    I kind of like John Kerry for the job and think he earned it for his role as a campaign surrogate on Veterans' issues and playing Romney in debate prep, but it's clear to me that the people against Susan Rice are holding her to the standard of impossible perfection.  

    You know who else supported the Bush administration's Iraq resolution?  Hillary Clinton.  (And John Kerry.)

    Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

    by Loge on Wed Dec 05, 2012 at 11:12:05 AM PST

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    •  McGovern a 9/11 truther? (1+ / 0-)
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      wilderness voice

      That could mean anything from healthy skepticism of details in the official story to a full blown tinfoil hat conspiracy.

      There's more to McGovern's assessment of Susan Rice than her support of the Iraq invasion.  Read it.

      You could be right about standards of impossible perfection being applied to Susan Rice.

      Kerry would be good, but I'd like to see him stay in the Senate.

      •  I'd rather have Kerry as my Senator (0+ / 0-)

        Scott Brown and one more for the R side is the option. I don't think Ed Markey can beat Brown.

        "Good morning, brothers Koch. I see you're doing well. If I had me a shotgun, I'd blow you straight to hell." w/apologies to R. Hunter

        by RUKind on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 08:41:55 PM PST

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    •  To say that I'm disappointed (2+ / 0-)
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      Roger Fox, oysterface

      In the left's defense of Rice is an understatement.  I live on the front lines of our nation's defense and intervention choices.  I get very frustrated when anyone thinks the answers to such ails are always black and white and there are clear 100% guaranteed successful outcomes that our leaders were simply too lazy or self centered to undertake.

    •  Ray McGovern speaks the truth about Bobby Gates (1+ / 0-)
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      McGovern was his station chief in a CIA Field Office. I listened to him in person talk about how Bobby Gates parrotted what the Dir of CIA Bill Casey wanted him to say about the Soviets (2) in Nicaragua.  He said the Soviets might have 2 personnel in Nic in the 1980's, but Bobby Gates, Secr of Defense under Bush and Obama, saw two of them under every rock you would turn over.  Soviets didn't give a damn about central America, but he Ray-Gun shoot first administration needed someone to say their was a huge Soviet buildup there.  He did it for them, based on NOTHING.  FUCK Robert Gates and why did Obama not kick his worthless ass out of the Pentagon?

      80 % of Success is Just Showing Up !

      by Churchill on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 06:59:58 PM PST

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