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  •  it is useful to differentiate betw Southern whites (1+ / 0-)
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    and non-Southern whites, in my opinion.  In states where the law REQUIRED that all non-whites be legally treated differently - separate (way underfunded) schools, separate hospitals, back of the bus, separate water fountains and bathrooms, separate churches (and the ministers were as racist as the politicians, even Rev. Billy Graham), no right to vote - In Louisiana the law required that textbooks from white public schools could not be stored in the same warehouse as textbooks from black public schools, etc. - those ingrained cultural norms dating back many generations do still have an effect on voting preferences.  The party "that supports the blacks" will not get their votes, period, regardless of the skin color of the nominee.  

    I think it is useful to study the voting patterns of those white voters separately from white voters from the other states, the states that do not have a history of racial discrimination.   In Alabama and Mississippi, Obama got about 10% of the white vote.  I don't think the white voters of AL and MS are motivated by the same factors as white voters in, for example, Wisconsin, Iowa or Montana.

    I think Southern whites ARE different (at least my extended family is).

    •  Not so much different (0+ / 0-)

      The reality is that there is fluidity among the white people.  A friend I grew up with, parties with and held her head while we were in high school in NJ moved to Georgia.  now she's a fucking racist wingnut loon.  Conversely many southerners move north.  They take their prejudices with them.  I think the culture in the south has something to do with the racism, case in point my friend.  However, I also believe that there is a deep racism in the north as well.  it's just more concealed.  My dad lived in NJ for close to 40 years and the last vote he cast before he passed 4 weeks later was for Democrats, all except one.  He REFUSED to vote for Obama because he couldn't vote for that 'macaco' or 'monkey'.  Sadly his sentiments were shared by many in the Portuguese community in NJ.  Here in CT it's no different.  They use code words like socialism and marxism but it all boils down to racism.  They don't want to see their tax dollars being used by a negro to prop up other negroes.        If you look at the voting breakdowns by race you'll see that Obama underperformed with whites across the whole country.  Of course in the south it was more pronounced but the reality is the whites did not vote for him due to his color.  That's one of the main reasons why I think that the next Dem candidate will overperform Obama so long as that candidate is also white.  The minorities will not soon forget the racism exhibited by the GOP towards themselves and Obama.  The white, many who don't even realize consciously that they're racists or have racist tendencies will be more likely to cross back to the D side.   The deep south will always be tough because of the culture that is so deeply ingrained in many of them and the history of the Democratic Party but many states along the fringes will be alot closer or flip.

      This is your world These are your people You can live for yourself today Or help build tomorrow for everyone -8.75, -8.00

      by DisNoir36 on Thu Dec 06, 2012 at 05:53:04 AM PST

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