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    an important thing to keep in mind.

    but, a few things have changed since then.

    1. 2010 was in response to 2008, with a whole bunch of aggrieved  GOPers eager to hit back for the "wrong" of 2008. that is what the faux "tea party" hype tapped into. but the GOP establishment quickly lost control of it, and that faction has actually cost the GOP some very significant winnable races. so now they are stuck between a rock and a hard place. the establishment needs that faction for money, grass roots organizing, and GOTV, but catering to them costs them credibility with almost everyone else.
    2. now that Obama doesn't need to worry about a second term, he's much more free to play hard ball with the crazies than before. and we can see the results of that already. he will not give the GOP leadership cover if they want to cater to their base. so they are really on the horns of a dilemma. deal with Obama, they have a intra-party revolt on their hands. cater to the base, and they marginalize the party even further.

    the GOP is not dead by any means, and they still have their business power base and lots of cards to play. but as long as they stick to their core economic agenda and cater primarily to their base, they will marginalize themselves.

    way to early to say it yet, but I think there is a real chance in Obama's second term to do what he said Reagan did: change the trajectory of our politics. not a huge realignment, but a nudge in a better direction where the GOP and its voters have to step out of their fact-free parallel universe and deal with the reality based community again.

    •  I just mean that these characterizations (0+ / 0-)

      of the death of the party tend to be very short-sighted and overlook the fact that a clear loss leads to not death but to some kind of reorganization and change of plan.

      In 2008, everybody seemed certain that the Republican Party had been destroyed by Bush's incompetence.  Not so.  Within months, it had begun reorganizing itself as a loony tune Teabagger turf-roots party and turned its back on Bush as if that whole thing was ancient history of no concern.  It surprised the hell out of us that that ever could work.

      Expect them to change in some way.  Maybe they'll be saner, maybe not.  Maybe nicer and more cooperative, maybe not.  But they'll change in some way to wipe away the stench of Romney.  And it will once again surprise us all how easy it will be for them to do it.

      •  i'm agreeing with you about 2008 (0+ / 0-)

        but I think their path forward from here is a lot less clear. now that the tea party card has been played and it failed to knock off Obama, simply sticking with that tactic is not going to help them. but, any move away from that faction carries risks for them as well. i don't think the party leadership knows what to do about it, and for now they are just playing for time. but I think they know they are going to start losing big fights with Obama soon, and that they will start to pay a price for that with their base.

        how they handle that and where it leaves them in the next two cycles is hard to say. they may not be dead, but they've got a big problem on their hands with no easy solutions.

      •  Coalition is fracturing. (1+ / 0-)

        The Republican coalition is the Three Rs - Rich + Religious + Racist.

        I see significant evidence that that coalition is fracturing, or at the least that it is no longer enough alone.  The Republicans are going to have to change their coalition, and it's really not clear what the best direction for that is.

        Drop opposition to Gays?  Try to woo Asians?  Allow women first-class economic opportunity?

        All of these seem impossible now, but something has got to give.

        -7.75 -4.67

        "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose."

        There are no Christians in foxholes.

        by Odysseus on Thu Dec 06, 2012 at 09:04:04 AM PST

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        •  I think they keep beating the dead horse (0+ / 0-)

          for a while longer. They just weren't conservative enough.

          There were four "Rs" until "Retarded" fell out of vogue from the Leftist-American lexicon.

          The dire straits facing America are not due poor people having too much money

          by Anthony Page aka SecondComing on Thu Dec 06, 2012 at 09:36:48 AM PST

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