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  •  Frankly, Roland Martin had a legitimate question. (4+ / 0-)

    That had been my question: Why should any West Pointer cede power to fundie assholes no matter those asshole's current rank in the chain of command.

    But Mr. Page had a legitimate answer.  But one that raises some questions as well.

    "Republicans have been fleeced and exploited and lied to by a conservative entertainment complex." - David Frum

    by Glinda on Thu Dec 06, 2012 at 05:03:34 PM PST

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    •  It can't be easy trying to (6+ / 0-)

      recover from the death of your father while being harassed by your fellow students and at the same time undergoing the rigors of a Westpoint education.

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Thu Dec 06, 2012 at 06:55:14 PM PST

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      •  Exactly! (5+ / 0-)

        Let's hope there's another cadet at West Point who is as vocal and committed to freedom of religious expression (or the lack thereof) but doesn't have the personal emotional issues that can take up the gauntlet on this issue.

        This is a perfect time for a cadet to throw herself or himself into this fray.  Let's hope that another member of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation steps up and gets very vocal!

        "Republicans have been fleeced and exploited and lied to by a conservative entertainment complex." - David Frum

        by Glinda on Thu Dec 06, 2012 at 07:23:20 PM PST

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    •  No, Roland had research he didn't do. (5+ / 0-)

      It wasn't a secret that Blake had begun to process out, and what the reason was that he wouldn't be commissioned. Heck, I found out in a few minutes. Likely, any cadet in his company would have known that and Roland could have picked up a phone or read the HuffPo article.

      Grandstanding the first black cadet serves no purpose. It was, as they say in cadet parlance, "a bogus question."

      The first women had it tough at WP, too, and they stuck it out through inappropriate conduct toward them that ran the gamut. Good on them, too. But that's not Blake Page's struggle, either.

      •  He wasn't there in a journalistic capacity (0+ / 0-)

        he was there as a pundit.

        'Nuf said. Pundits are paid mouths disconnected from actual brainwork.

        That said, Roland served as a very good "counterpoint" to raise a ridiculous strawman that could be knocked over with a feather.  it worked.  That Roland appeared dogmatic and uninformed only served to make it a stronger segment.  

        I just hope this wasn't Fox-like theater for liberals.  It might just be.  And if so, I might lose interest in Soledad O'Brian. I don't need the liberal equivalent of Fox News.

        "Republicans have been fleeced and exploited and lied to by a conservative entertainment complex." - David Frum

        by Glinda on Thu Dec 06, 2012 at 07:32:12 PM PST

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      •  looks like Page wrote this though... (2+ / 0-)
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        While there are certainly numerous problems with the developmental program at West Point and all service academies, the tipping point of my decision to resign was the realization that countless officers here and throughout the military are guilty of blatantly violating the oaths they swore to defend the Constitution
        So he's claiming he's resigned due to the religious issue.

        We were not ahead of our time, we led the way to our time.

        by i understand on Thu Dec 06, 2012 at 09:27:29 PM PST

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    •  Constantly being bombarded... (4+ / 0-)

      ...with prejudice and discrimination of the anti-everything of evangelical fundamental Christianity is exhausting. I'd never fault someone for getting tired of it and needing to escape.

      •  Yeah but this is West Point (0+ / 0-)

        You expect cadets to be tougher than the average person.  And it's really hard to change an institution from the outside.  (As an ex-Catholic I know this all too well!)

        But Roland Martin's extenuating personal situation explains pretty much why it was untenable to stay.

        I hope there's a contingent remaining on the inside of West Point committed to changing that warped culture.

        "Republicans have been fleeced and exploited and lied to by a conservative entertainment complex." - David Frum

        by Glinda on Fri Dec 07, 2012 at 06:20:37 AM PST

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